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Exactly. There should be no position to one side or the other as far as a company goes. It is a business not a venue.
When you go into work, there should be plain clothes with no logos what so ever. You are there to a job and earn a pay check. Not to advertise.

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Bravo!
When my daughter was in middle and high school in N. Ca circa '92 to '98 they could either wear an approved uniform
==OR==
regular teen garb of that time (with some modesty, cleanliness and neatness standards) but with NO logos of sports teams, musical groups, yada yada...basically a plain shirt or blouse, same for hats.
 
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They should bring uniforms and spanking back to the classrooms :rofl: That should give them lesson for the long run, especially them millennials in these pandemic times ;)

When I was in junior high and high school, boys had to wear a coat and tie. And this was Public School in Boston, 1960' and 70's.
 

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They should bring uniforms and spanking back to the classrooms :rofl: That should give them lesson for the long run, especially them millennials in these pandemic times ;)
Uniforms yes. Corporal punishment no, that's very harmful.

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It’s not harmful at all. Generations of properly behaved children were raised this way. Now we have parents who give themselves a time out and children who are animals.
My wife is a clinical child psychologist and deals daily with kids messed up by physical abuse in the guise of discipline. All the research shows hitting kids under any circumstances isn't a good way to enforce discipline. We will have to disagree on this one.

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My wife is a clinical child psychologist and deals daily with kids messed up by physical abuse in the guise of discipline. All the research shows hitting kids under any circumstances isn't a good way to enforce discipline. We will have to disagree on this one.

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Nonsense. They are likely more messed up by having interactions with a psychiatrist who cannot distinguish between physical abuse and discipline. I’m not interested in nonsense published by folks who want to increase their patient base.
 

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My wife is a clinical child psychologist and deals daily with kids messed up by physical abuse in the guise of discipline. All the research shows hitting kids under any circumstances isn't a good way to enforce discipline. We will have to disagree on this one.

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I have to agree, I don’t support the spanking part, but I do like watching those moments on TV :rofl:
 

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My wife is a clinical child psychologist and deals daily with kids messed up by physical abuse in the guise of discipline. All the research shows hitting kids under any circumstances isn't a good way to enforce discipline. We will have to disagree on this one.

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Bullshit, when a child throws sand into another child's eyes there needs to be physical discipline or it will happen again with more intent. The first time is the learning curve.
But also in return, parents need to be involved with their children. For example outdoors play ing games instead of sitting in the lawn chair doing nothing. Take them on day trips. See if they would like help you with your hobbies.
A lack of being a parent is the problem to begin with.

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My wife is a clinical child psychologist and deals daily with kids messed up by physical abuse in the guise of discipline. All the research shows hitting kids under any circumstances isn't a good way to enforce discipline. We will have to disagree on this one.

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The liberal socialist teachers now teach kids at a very young age that if your parents spank you to report it as abuse. The same folks who also teach gender identity bullshit to grade schoolers.

The problem isn’t the spanking, the problem once again is liberalism and the Education system that has been taken over by folks who emphasize victimization as a way to get ahead in life because of their own inability to deal with real life and their own pathetic insecurities.
 

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Kid learn there are no consequences for misbehavior far too early in life. With no consequences for misbehavior we get to reap the "benefits" as in Seattle, Portland, Chicago, New Yawk and most other major metropolitan areas. It's being further re-enforced by liberal politicians not enforcing the law, again no consequences.
 

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When I was young and dumb, I was a hell raiser. I got the crap beat out of me at school and home when I screwed up. It definately made me think twice before I did something stupid. I agree w/ most everyone here, the kids do not have any consequences for misbehavior any more.

BTW, nothing personal, but I took psychology classes in HS and college, and remember that all the psychology profs were crazy.
 

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When I grew up, even the local cop, our town had one back then, administered "the beating" when he caught me f'in up. Then he took me home, in the back of the squad car, and each of my parents had their turn. Needless to say, I didn't f up again, and I have yet to kill anyone even though I have the means, knowledge and ability even at my somewhat "advanced" age.

Ya know, Einstein, arguably a very smart person, said doing the same thing, the same way, over and over again is insanity. The "professionals" all tell us how damaging corporal punishment is and should never be used. Look where that's gotten us, but those "professionals" keep adding more and more restrictions to the list. Insanity is the correct term for what is going on.
 

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Sigh. Often I wonder why I even try. There's a certain mindset here that personal opinion and anecdotal personal experience outweighs generations of meticulous scientific research on broad populations, on just about any subject.

I can play too:

True story: when I was a kid, I had access to LOTS of soda that my parents could get wholesale. Coke usually, but throw in Sprite and Seven up and Fanta Orange to name a few. I drank huge amounts, well above whatever national average there was at the time for sure. And I ate candy at every opportunity. And guess what? I'M NOT DIABETIC.
Therefore, all the research showing excess sugar in kids' diets is bad, and should be moderated must be a liberal conspiracy! I didn't suffer from it so probably decades of studies of populations showing a correlation between high sugar intake and type 2 diabetes must be fake news by drug companies trying to push insulin on a country that doesn't need it.

Welcome to 1950. I guess this is what #maga is all about. Screw the scientists and professionals, anyone with an opinion can just make crap up and have it stick.
 

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My point is that "experts" studying in non-real world environments trying to pick out the "best" way, and having no experience in real life to boot, shouldn't be making recommendations. According to your analysis there should be a bunch of 60 year old, and older, mass murders running around because we were subjected to corporal punishment. Instead, there's a bunch of 20 and 30 year old mass murders running around. Great outcome. Anecdotal or not, it's the statistics that do your argument in. Look at the number of hit and run deaths. I can't remember one when I was a kid but hardly a day goes by without at least one or two. No consequences, no responsibility is the result. Corner time is a waste of time.
 

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Sigh. Often I wonder why I even try. There's a certain mindset here that personal opinion and anecdotal personal experience outweighs generations of meticulous scientific research on broad populations, on just about any subject.

I can play too:

True story: when I was a kid, I had access to LOTS of soda that my parents could get wholesale. Coke usually, but throw in Sprite and Seven up and Fanta Orange to name a few. I drank huge amounts, well above whatever national average there was at the time for sure. And I ate candy at every opportunity. And guess what? I'M NOT DIABETIC.
Therefore, all the research showing excess sugar in kids' diets is bad, and should be moderated must be a liberal conspiracy! I didn't suffer from it so probably decades of studies of populations showing a correlation between high sugar intake and type 2 diabetes must be fake news by drug companies trying to push insulin on a country that doesn't need it.

Welcome to 1950. I guess this is what #maga is all about. Screw the scientists and professionals, anyone with an opinion can just make crap up and have it stick.

Sigh
Not even close to the same thing. Nice try.
 

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If you dig into it you will find a strong correlation between violent offenders of any age and a history of violence in the home and corporal punishment in particular. Teaching consequences by demonstrating it's ok to hit is just fundamentally poor logic. Kids are imitative and repeat what adults do.

Again, look at the research if interested. I get an earful from my wife about it.

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