Browser for IP-Cams which need ActiveX and are not supported by new Browser generations anymore

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Hello, everyone!

Since I've been looking for what feels like an eternity for a solution to configure old IP cameras via a browser under Windows10 , I would like to share my solution.

If a camera has to install an ActiveX plug-in, this fails with all modern browsers because - for security reasons - they no longer support ActiveX. With Firefox and Opera as well as an old Internet Explorer version, access was still possible in some cases, but fonts were often not displayed correctly or not at all, no live-stream access or whatever.

My solution for Windows 10 is: Safari (yes, the Apple Browser)

I was able to download Safari V5.1.7 from 2012 by chip.de and it still works great on Windows 10.

Live view and configuration run without any problems.

Of course, I would like to warn you against going online with such an old browser! The browser probably has more holes than my 30-year-old army socks! So please only use for internal network access!!!

Wanted to share this here, because I've had help on a number of occasions, but I couldn't find a solution to this topic in the entire forum.

Keep it running!
 
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The simple solution is to shut off Windows updates. Windows updates break way more than they ever fix.
 
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I have recently bought an Empire Starlight from Amazon.
I only buy from Amazon because returns are instantly approved and credit is given within 5 hours of return to the local UPS store.
During the last 2 weeks I purchased an Empire cam 4 times. I returned everyone except for the very last one for the same reasons.
They came with an IP setting of 192.168.1.xxx:37777.
I have 4th one still in my possession and am determined to fix it.
I tried every browser mentioned here, even Edge in Internet Explorer mode. All have issues.
I even emailed Andy from Empire. They sent me a link to a you tube video that was running in hyper speed and was 15th the normal dimensions ( I assume this was due to carelessly sending it via internet connection which compressed everything). I have seen this happen to me once before about 10 years ago).

Is there any way to get an earlier version of internet explore with active x?
Or is there another way?
Or should I just give up?

I will not buy from anyone except Amazon because I have had 2 really bad experiences.

Dee
 
dee said:
I have recently bought an Empire Starlight from Amazon.
I only buy from Amazon because returns are instantly approved and credit is given within 5 hours of return to the local UPS store.
During the last 2 weeks I purchased an Empire cam 4 times. I returned everyone except for the very last one for the same reasons.
They came with an IP setting of 192.168.1.xxx:37777.
I have 4th one still in my possession and am determined to fix it.
I tried every browser mentioned here, even Edge in Internet Explorer mode. All have issues.
I even emailed Andy from Empire. They sent me a link to a you tube video that was running in hyper speed and was 15th the normal dimensions ( I assume this was due to carelessly sending it via internet connection which compressed everything). I have seen this happen to me once before about 10 years ago).

Is there any way to get an earlier version of internet explore with active x?
Or is there another way?
Or should I just give up?

I will not buy from anyone except Amazon because I have had 2 really bad experiences.

Dee
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You can buy Anpviz Cams by Amazon. Easy to configure (I think it's Hikvision but not sure) and you get access with Chrome and Opera. Only problem I found is that the email notification service supports SSL and TLS only, STARTTLS is not supported. But that's not a real problem as my NVR supports STARTTLS.
 
If you're running Win10 try typing "explorer" in the search bar. That should bring up a list that includes good, old, Internet Explorer. Bring that up and simply type in the IP of the camera (assuming your PC is on the 192.168.1.xxx subnet). The port number is inconsequential.

If you can't get to Internet Explorer, download and install Pale Moon browser in the 32 bit version. You can access the camera through the same IP that would be used for Internet Exxplorer.

I have almost two dozen Dahua cameras, from old 2MP bullets to the latest 4K-T and have never, ever, had a problem accessing the camera GUI to configure it. I've never used a port number when accessing the camera and can't understand why you're entering a port number.
 
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sebastiantombs said:
If you're running Win10 try typing "explorer" in the search bar. That should bring up a list that includes good, old, Internet Explorer. Bring that up and simply type in the IP of the camera (assuming your PC is on the 192.168.1.xxx subnet). The port number is inconsequential.

If you can't get to Internet Explorer, download and install Pale Moon browser in the 32 bit version. You can access the camera through the same IP that would be used for Internet Exxplorer.

I have almost two dozen Dahua cameras, from old 2MP bullets to the latest 4K-T and have never, ever, had a problem accessing the camera GUI to configure it. I've never used a port number when accessing the camera and can't understand why you're entering a port number.
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I think the reason a lot of things don't work any more is stricter security. Many things I did years ago just don't work anymore.

It is not only the port number it is also the IPv4 number.
IPv4 number is 192.168.0.1 and I already have a camera on 192.168.0.108.
The camera I am trying to change comes with 192.168.1.108.

I am thinking of getting a second card, setting it with 192.168,1.1 and putting all my cameras on it.

Should that work?
 
Or use the Dahua IP config tool. It can be used across subnets. See the dahuawiki.com
Your problem is user error.
 
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dee said:
They came with an IP setting of 192.168.1.xxx:37777.
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That is the default TCP port for all the Dahua/Amcrest cams I've ever used.
And 192.168.1.108 is the default IP for all of those same cams...you can hard reset it to insure that.
  • Install Pale Moon 32 bit browser as suggested by sebastiantombs.
  • Note your PC's settings for its NIC (Ethernet).
  • Give your PC TEMPORARILY a static IP of 192.168.1.22, subnet mask of 255.255.255.0, plug it directly into the cam or the same switch as the cam and bring up the cam's webGUI by typing 192.168.1.108 into the browser.
  • Change the cam's IP to your liking.
  • Put your PC's IP back where it was.
 
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Yep, that was all explained in their own post before they jumped into this one hoping to hear something different LOL....

Factory Reset?

I've bought 6 Dahua rebranded cams during the last 3 weeks. So far I have already returned four of them. Some had problems that were not worth trying to mitigate. However, I now have an Empire Dahua Starlight I would like to fix. I ran it on the config tool to change Ip but was unable to do so...
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Or use the Dahua IP config tool. It can be used across subnets. See the dahuawiki.com
Your problem is user error.
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Have used it for years, but it is possible that I am using it wrong.
I just don't know what I am doing wrong.

First thing I did was to disconnect all my cameras from the POE switch.
Then I looked up my cameras to on Blue Iris and found one with 192.168.0.108
Then I disconnected that and all other (4 more) from the POE switch.)
The I connected the new Dahua camera to the POE switch.
Then I clicked on Modify in Dahua Config Tool.
Then the Initialized IPC-T544T-ZE appeared with 192.168.1.108.
Clicked check mark in heading selected all underneath (the only one)
Clicked Batch Modify IP
Kept Static
Entered:
Start IP 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0
Gateway 192.168.0.1
Clicked OK
Nothing happened, nothing changed.

Can you tell me what I did wrong?
 
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That is the default TCP port for all the Dahua/Amcrest cams I've ever used.
And 192.168.1.108 is the default IP for all of those same cams...you can hard reset it to insure that.
  • Install Pale Moon 32 bit browser as suggested by sebastiantombs.
  • Note your PC's settings for its NIC (Ethernet).
  • Give your PC TEMPORARILY a static IP of 192.168.1.22, subnet mask of 255.255.255.0, plug it directly into the cam or the same switch as the cam and bring up the cam's webGUI by typing 192.168.1.108 into the browser.
  • Change the cam's IP to your liking.
  • Put your PC's IP back where it was.
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My pc address is 192.168.0.50
My IP4 address is 190.168.0.1

Also just remembered when I bought my current motherboard it came with 2 NIC cards built in I have been using the 2.5 Gig. It also has a 1GIG.

Do you want me to use the 1 GIG instead, if you do, how should I set it?
Also forgot to mention that I just got a second 8 port switch, so when a port goes out, I'll have a backup to plug into.
I really appreciate your expert help and would like to configure this the way you would.
How would you?
 
dee said:
Have used it for years, but it is possible that I am using it wrong.
I just don't know what I am doing wrong.

First thing I did was to disconnect all my cameras from the POE switch.
Then I looked up my cameras to on Blue Iris and found one with 192.168.0.108
Then I disconnected that and all other (4 more) from the POE switch.)
The I connected the new Dahua camera to the POE switch.
Then I clicked on Modify in Dahua Config Tool.
Then the Initialized IPC-T544T-ZE appeared with 192.168.1.108.
Clicked check mark in heading selected all underneath (the only one)
Clicked Batch Modify IP
Kept Static
Entered:
Start IP 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0
Gateway 192.168.0.1
Clicked OK
Nothing happened, nothing changed.

Can you tell me what I did wrong?
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So your network is configured 192.168.0.xxx and the cam ip is 192.168.1.xxx? If yes just change your IP4 subnet mask from 255.255.255.0 to 255.255.0.0 (Windows network (LAN) settings). Now you can access the cam gui by typing 192.168.1.108 in your Browser, go to network settings (after login) and change the cam ip to 192.168.0.241 (first cam), 242 (2nd), 243 (3rd) and so on.

After that's done set the subnet from your local lan port back to 255.255.255.0 and it's done.
 
dee said:
Nothing happened, nothing changed.

Can you tell me what I did wrong?
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Maybe. After you initialize the camera and before you try to change its IP, you need to go to Config Tool's Search Setting and change the password to match the camera's password. Sometimes changing the IP address doesn't work until the 2nd try. If you're using Config Tool, do not mess with the computer's IP configuration. If not using Config Tool, you must change your computers IP setup unless it already happens to be on the 192.168.1.xxx subnet.
 
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Maybe try reading the help file included with IPConfig tool. ;)
 
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