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The common theme of those with TDS is to whine about his character and mean tweets. They can’t win an argument on the merits of his official actions and are completely lost when it comes to understanding what he actually stood for and why over 1/2 the voting age population supported him.

Most also come from Democrat controlled shit holes and get their news from CNNMSNBC.

I used to feel sorry for them
 

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Rush was a good man. I'd say 99.99% of the leftist peabrain base never once listened to a whole show by Rush or for that matter one second, but would parrot the twisted narrative that the leftist msm would hammer down day after day about Rush. Good man, and much missed.
 

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Rush was a good man. I'd say 99.99% of the leftist peabrain base never once listened to a whole show by Rush or for that matter one second, but would parrot the twisted narrative that the leftist msm would hammer down day after day about Rush. Good man, and much missed.
True and this was back in 1993. There are more videos of his show out there that he focused all these issues are a result of the lack of personal responsibility. Watching these videos now, he was 30 years ahead of the rest of us. I do miss him as sadly; we will never have anyone like him again.
 

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The common theme of those with TDS is to whine about his character and mean tweets. They can’t win an argument on the merits of his official actions and are completely lost when it comes to understanding what he actually stood for...
Can you articulate what he stood for? Can you explain his policies?

This whole thread is slightly nuts to me, because I'm basically a fiscal conservative but with real policy interests. There's no home for me in the republican party, nobody there wants to solve problems, they just want to fight against the "oppressor". How did you all get captured by Trump and Fox news?

Why do you fight for states rights and then demand federal level control over certain policies?

Do you really feel that these things are worth your time to define your being on? Isn't there more than the "us" vs "them" mentality that you all seem to be trapped within. We're literally living in the best country in the world (US) and yet you want to implode our society because you can't imagine a compromise position.

How did this all happen?
 

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Can you articulate what he stood for? Can you explain his policies?

This whole thread is slightly nuts to me, because I'm basically a fiscal conservative but with real policy interests. There's no home for me in the republican party, nobody there wants to solve problems, they just want to fight against the "oppressor". How did you all get captured by Trump and Fox news?

Why do you fight for states rights and then demand federal level control over certain policies?

Do you really feel that these things are worth your time to define your being on? Isn't there more than the "us" vs "them" mentality that you all seem to be trapped within. We're literally living in the best country in the world (US) and yet you want to implode our society because you can't imagine a compromise position.

How did this all happen?
How did it happen, well 40 or 50 years ago, socialist got a foot hold in our schools. They started slowly dumbing down a few students such that many of them couldn't/wouldn't think for them selves. As more time passed, they were given an inch and took a mile, with more and more dumbed down students as years quietly passed by. More inches given, more miles taken. Those students are now in their 30's, 40's, and 50's and now teachers passing on their learnings, some with advanced dumb down skills. Now after all these years, they have built up a base who believe anything they see and hear from those that told them what to see and hear and believe. Now they have gotten so outrageous with the ideals they are trying to promote, they are doing insane things openly without fear of being tarred, feathered, and run out of town.

i guess we did it to ourselves for not taking an earlier stand. Now the only compromising is they will gladly give back an inch and take another mile. Is that how you want to solve problems? Have you seen the other side making any compromising offers in the last 14 years?

Attack on the Constitution and Bill of Rights
Border policy
Big tech and government colluding on censorship
Critical race theory
Sex change for kids
Defunding the police
No bail/jail policy

What are your compromises?

Do you feel more at home with the Democrat Party?

"Why do you fight for states rights and then demand federal level control over certain policies?" What in the hell are you talking about?

If you think this thread nuts, why are you posting in here?
 

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How did it happen, well 40 or 50 years ago, socialist got a foot hold in our schools.
Well, I don't see that as the case. Do you know what it was like in Socialist countries? What ones have succeeded today? Not many.

The remotely socialist policies that exist today that are perhaps from that era or before are Social security and medicare. If you don't need either one, I guess you planned really well for your retirement, and I applaud you.

They started slowly dumbing down a few students such that many of them couldn't/wouldn't think for them selves. As more time passed, they were given an inch and took a mile, with more and more dumbed down students as years quietly passed by. More inches given, more miles taken. Those students are now in their 30's, 40's, and 50's and now teachers passing on their learnings, some with advanced dumb down skills.
I guess you are describing me since i'm in that age range, but my reality doesn't match what you think. I advocate for thinking for yourself every day, but I also self reflect on what my actions are and how they impact others. I might still do things that are good for me and bad for others, but I am fully aware of everything, and I have plenty of skills and a stable career. I'm not the majority in my age bracket, but I'm also not an anomaly. There will always be idiots.


Now after all these years, they have built up a base who believe anything they see and hear from those that told them what to see and hear and believe. Now they have gotten so outrageous with the ideals they are trying to promote, they are doing insane things openly without fear of being tarred, feathered, and run out of town.
If you only listen to Fox news and only exist on the Internet, I can see how you would think this is true. But it's far from my experience, and I don't spend much time with social media. You are right that there are lots of idiots in the world (not just the US), but of course that was always true. Thanks to social media and the Internet, they now have a voice, but only if someone chooses to listen.



i guess we did it to ourselves for not taking an earlier stand. Now the only compromising is they will gladly give back an inch and take another mile. Is that how you want to solve problems? Have you seen the other side making any compromising offers in the last 14 years?
What stand would you take? Do you want to send those people to re-education (internment) camps? The only path forward is compromise. Otherwise you are left to violence, and nobody wins in the end with that.


Attack on the Constitution and Bill of Rights
Not seeing it, even with the pre-Trump supreme court, 2A was fine, I had what I needed and nobody was taking it.
Free speech is alive and well, I can disagree with any government employee and not go to jail.

Border policy
Agree, needs a compromise to solve. Building a wall does nothing to stop people from coming, a comprehensive solution is required, which requires compromise. Have to give the people a reason not to come, which means diplomacy.

Big tech and government colluding on censorship
If you want big tech to not censor you, then you have to regulate them, so you are not really a true conservative at that point. You can't have it both ways, either no private regulation or some reasonable private regulation to protect citizens health and property. Why would I want to operate in this country as a business if the government is going to tell me I have to serve customers that I don't want?

Critical race theory
You don't know what this is, nobody does unless you're a college professor, but you assume it means a single race can't be dominant or who knows what you think. It's a good thing to allow all races to coexist and hopefully based on merit achieve. I think we'd be better off without returning to slavery. And, we can look back on history and say slavery was bad and there are lasting consequences from that. And still think this country is great. Two things can be true at the same time.

Sex change for kids
Agree, at 18 they should be free to do what they want, but before I think is unwise.

Defunding the police
Nobody really wanted this other than some random city people that are clueless. The places that tried this probably did it poorly. You have to maintain or increase police funding alongside mental health services.

No bail/jail policy
Might be fine for some offenses. There's plenty of data prior to the pandemic that no bail doesn't increase repeat offenses. Just too polarizing to be meaningfully debated these days.


"Why do you fight for states rights and then demand federal level control over certain policies?" What in the hell are you talking about?
Roe/Dobbs being overturned in the Supreme court, and all the Republicans out and about trying to make abortion illegal federally. Leave it to the states where it belongs, like almost all things.


What are your compromises?

Do you feel more at home with the Democrat Party?

If you think this thread nuts, why are you posting in here?
I'm advocating for compromise. If I can't communicate with you, what hope is there? I can't agree with the current Republican party, and most Democrats are not extreme liberals. They are moderates looking for a better future. I just want a peaceful future to retire without having to worry. Voting for crazy Republicans that don't care about policy and only venerate Trump and his insanity is not an option for me, I want responsible government spending with accountability, and that requires candidates that are responsible and can articulate real policies that matter to an individual like me.
 
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