So, obviously, i struggled with this a lot (maybe I still do!) but my current understanding is this:My goal is to use the substream at SD resolutions for AI detection (and triggers) as well as recording the SD stream 24/7. I only want to keep HD clips that are triggered by Deepstack. I've seen the videos on this, but what is confusing is it's hard to tell how much is still relevant with the current BIv5. Do I want/need to create both HD and SD cameras? Is that "cloning" or something else entirely? Conversely, can a single logical BI camera use both streams to send the image to AItools->Deepstack and then be triggered by the AI engine?
I am FAR from an expert, so this might be less than helpful, but seems like a permissions issue? I also know the latest AI Tool doesn't use the Cameras folder any more, so what version of AITool are you using?[03.12.2020, 06:25:48.577]: ERROR: Can't write to cameras/history.csv!
Any idea why I'm getting this error?
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I also have this need, I haven't been able to find any other way to accomplish this. Different Chat ID's would also enable custom notifications in the Telegram app i.e only with sound if it's really important. I have previously suggested it but if you add here this it will help: VorlonCD/bi-aidetectionHi!
AI Tool is a wonderful tool! I just started evaluating it since a couple of days ago! Thank you for sharing it.
I would like to make a modification proposal. Taking my personal case as an example, I would need each Telegram chat-id to be per camera, and not a single global chat-id. In my case, this need is due to the fact that certain cameras are intended to be shown by some users, and others by a different group of people, who do not necessarily share the same cameras.
Or may be anyone has a different idea to accomplish this?
I say it again, the tool is excellent and the tutorial to put it into operation very well explained. Thanks a lot.
Chris is working on it.I also have this need, I haven't been able to find any other way to accomplish this. Different Chat ID's would also enable custom notifications in the Telegram app i.e only with sound if it's really important. I have previously suggested it but if you add here this it will help: VorlonCD/bi-aidetection
Here you go, this is a very recent build that I am personally using and can vouch for VorlonCD AITool Version 188.8.131.5237 Build 30/11/2020I would like to express my gratitude and admiration for the guys on this forum who have the interest and ability to make programs such as AI Tool by Gentle pumpkin and latterly Chris Dodge's Fork on this to Releases · VorlonCD/bi-aidetection. I have been a Blue Iris user for a number of years and it gets better and better. And now I am using VorlonCD/bi-aidetection with my Blue Iris.
My use for Blue Iris is not just survellance around my property for the usual stuff but mainly to see what wildlife is around during the night. In order to achieve the best results for that the motion trigger settings have to be set very sensitive with the inevitable numerous false triggers, especially when it rains. But combining judicious use of Cloned Cameras, VorlonCD Ai tool , DeepQuestAI and Docker things are getting better and better. I am sure I could improve things more but so far I am happy.
But I know from things I get notified about that Chris and his friends are making further inroads to improving VorlonCD adding things like amazon rekognition AI instead of DeepquestAI, thought to give better identification of items at night. But try as I might I cannot master the compiling of the various additions to VorlonCD AI releases and I have to rely totally on the Releases. Thanks again Chris and friends but please update the Release files with current addition when you can.
How you set it up is really going to be based on what you want. You do not need to use 2 streams or you can, you don't have to use Telegram, you can use MQTT to push notifications, you can only use the AI on some or all your cameras etc. As much as you really do not want to ( assuming you were like me) I highly suggest you start at page 1 and read this whole thread, this project has really changed from Gentlepumpkins original and is actively being improved daily. There may be someone else that chimes in here and can help you more than I can but that is my advice.Hello everyone, basic question before I get started on this project. Right now my family is using the BI ios app that pings notifications and previews when we have an alert. What does the end result of the project look like, you get alerts from telegram or from BI? My family would prefer to continue to get notifications only in BI app.
my understanding of how this all works is we are using 2 streams, SD is continuously recording and high sensitivity so it triggers to the jpg frequently to get analyzed by the deepstack AI. once confirmed, it triggers the HD recording for the alert. Would the BI app get notifications for both triggers on the SD and HD?
also what if we were not worried about our BI specs, plenty of HD and ram, can you just use the HD stream for both?
Thanks @Tinbum I figured it out..well I think I figured it out, it took me numerous tries but when I cut and pasted everything into the folder it worked! I know it was just stubborn luck because if you asked me what I did I couldn't explain it. So a little update- I "thought" all was good because I am getting alerts thru telegram (all cameras) then I go into AI-Tool to check the stats / history tabs and they are all blank and I have 300+ errors All the same 2 errors, No predictions... and Max queue.. Again I am getting alert images? ...Well crap.If you haven't seen this video tutorial then you should check it out. My bad; I should have mentioned that I've watched that video 5x, and I've also looked over this site for hints. There was some talk about the demo version of Blue Iris having some AI detection issues due to the watermark in...ipcamtalk.com
This is where I am still having some confusion. Specifically, I want to record the substream (SD) continuously and use it for alerts. I then only want to record the mainstream (4K) based on the substream alerts. Does your reference to "record continuously" mean just to continuously record the mainstream? Or can continuous recording be designated for the substream as well as using for alerts?As a general rule if you intend to record continuously you do NOT need to use Cloned cameras. IMHO it is also doubtful that Dual stream functionality brings much to the party as you will most probably be recording continuously in HD and only use AITool to qualify events and index them.
If you only want to record your HD stream when AITool qualifies the event then you need to configure your camera or cameras using the clone configuration. So you need two configurations setup for each of your cameras. One camera configuration will be used to monitor and trigger on an event. The other will receive commands from Aitool to start recording for the period that you have defined in the configuration.Thanks, @Village Guy . You've been very helpful.
This is where I am still having some confusion. Specifically, I want to record the substream (SD) continuously and use it for alerts. I then only want to record the mainstream (4K) based on the substream alerts. Does your reference to "record continuously" mean just to continuously record the mainstream? Or can continuous recording be designated for the substream as well as using for alerts?
Can I recommend that you first of all get your system functional before discussing the resolution of streams. It really makes no difference to the fundamental configuration and is confusing you. Once you have Aitool functional everything else will fall into place.