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So yet another "conspiracy theory"....... is a step further towards being true. Again


Nord Stream Sabotage Was CIA, US Navy Covert Op: Seymour Hersh Bombshell Prompts White House Response
Nord Stream Sabotage Was CIA, US Navy Covert Op: Seymour Hersh Bombshell Prompts White House Response | ZeroHedge

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Hersh, relying on unnamed national security sources, describes months of discussions and back-and-forth involving the Biden White House, CIA, and Pentagon. The report says planning was in the works all the way back to December 2021, with a special task force formed under the aegis of US National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan.

"The Navy proposed using a newly commissioned submarine to assault the pipeline directly. The Air Force discussed dropping bombs with delayed fuses that could be set off remotely. The CIA argued that whatever was done, it would have to be covert. Everyone involved understood the stakes," the report, entitled How America Took Out The Nord Stream Pipeline reads.

"The Biden Administration was doing everything possible to avoid leaks as the planning took place late in 2021 and into the first months of 2022," it continues.
As momentum gained to proceed with a covert sabotage attack, "Over the next few weeks, members of the CIA’s working group began to craft a plan for a covert operation that would use deep-sea divers to trigger an explosion along the pipeline," Hersh writes.

But there was significant push back within the intelligence community, but any reservations were overcome in the lead-up and aftermath of the Russian invasion of Ukraine in February 2022. According to the investigative report:

...... What came next was stunning. On February 7, less than three weeks before the seemingly inevitable Russian invasion of Ukraine, Biden met in his White House office with German Chancellor Olaf Scholz, who, after some wobbling, was now firmly on the American team. At the press briefing that followed, Biden defiantly said, “If Russia invades . . . there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it.”


The original report here:

https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream

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It's almost like someone high up in the White House stood to make a lot of money if war broke out in Ukraine...

Note two important things
1- It was decided by Bidet to blow up the pipeline, provoking Russia, BEFORE they invaded Ukraine
2- Germany was complicit
 
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Is this the kind of respect that leftists thought they were going to get with a leftist prez?

Saad Almadi’s offending tweets included remarks that Saudi officials were unable to protect national borders from rocket fire by Iran-allied Houthi rebels in Yemen. He also said he agreed with naming a DC street after Khashoggi.
 

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Lets just keep poking the Bear, all the while making the MIC even richer, and hiding Bidets money laundering along with US bio-weapon labs. Perfect!


Russia Warns Of "Consequences For Entire World" If UK Sends Jets To Ukraine
Russia Warns Of "Consequences For Entire World" If UK Sends Jets To Ukraine | ZeroHedge

iirc there were Consequences if USA were to send manpads and javelins ..

then Consequences if this and that .. and that and this ..

funny, all sorts of Consequences and Putin is still not getting the clue to take the off ramps ..
 

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iirc there were Consequences if USA were to send manpads and javelins ..

then Consequences if this and that .. and that and this ..

funny, all sorts of Consequences and Putin is still not getting the clue to take the off ramps ..
True, so lets keep backing him into a corner until he has no choice.

This war was in the making for a long time., The US is not innocent in its origins I certainly hope it ends well. Unlike the last two
 

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True, so lets keep backing him into a corner until he has no choice.

This war was in the making for a long time., The US is not innocent in its origins I certainly hope it ends well. Unlike the last two
I would say he's not been backed into a corner yet ..

At this rate, every Eastern European country will want Nukes .. velvet gloves is what people have been doing with Putin so far ..
 

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Ah, remember the good ol' days....USSR vs USA....Nukes and MAD....no China. Ah, it was wonderful.
 

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And how exactly is ukraine going to Win, it may win on twitter and russia in the winter has quietly been chipping away the long range air defenses, still not eliminated them. But I saw a video for the first time Russian war planes using precision guided ground weapons at higher altitude above manpad range.

While earlier they could not and where relying on extreme low alttitude flying, lobing dumb bombs, but getting shot at by man pads.

Suppose this war becomes a war of attrition, ukraine has no chance. While Russia can escalate. If it becomes a West MIC vs Russian MIC kind of attrition, then russia still has FOAB options before using tactical nukes.

But before it goes to a stage where Russian MIC is unable to cope with all the western MIC, China will enter the chat and no one can compete with them.

So there is no off ramp but only escalation option for putin. Russian spokeperson said the amount of ukraine territory that will be taken soley depends on the range of the weapons Ukraine is going to get, if its a 150km himars launcher, they will keep a 150km buffer to nearest russian border including the recently annexed territory, if its the 300km version then it will be 300km buffer.
 

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How exactly can Vietnam win against the USA? How can Afghanistan win against the USSR? Just use nukes, right?
 

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How exactly can Vietnam win against the USA? How can Afghanistan win against the USSR? Just use nukes, right?
North vietnam was supported by China and USSR.
While US had poor international support way less then what Russia currently has and also US population itself wanted the US to get the hell out of vietnam. Plus US troops had to battle Mosquitos and snakes and the US public and world saw Buddhist Monks burn themselves alive in front of cameras in protest against US invasion.

Where as in Russia, recent Putin speech about leapard tanks again rolling in from Germany has further united the average russian.
 
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