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Half of the American population has no intelligence therefore they would never be insulted. But they were likely offended due to the whiteness of the ballon.

 

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NORAD Pleads Incompetence Over Failure To Spot Trump-Era Chinese Spy Balloons

NORAD Pleads Incompetence Over Failure To Spot Trump-Era Chinese Spy Balloons | ZeroHedge

And so, with their back up against the wall - the 'deep state' is now suggesting that they're simply incompetent when it comes to detecting foreign spy balloons in real time.
On Monday, NORAD commander Gen. Glen VanHereck told reporters that spy balloons entered US airspace three times during the Trump administration, but "that we did not detect those threats," calling it a "domain awareness gap."

"Every day as a NORAD commander, it’s my responsibility to detect threats to North America. I will tell you that we did not detect those threats," VanHereck said. "And that’s a domain awareness gap that we have to figure out, but I don’t want to go into further detail."

VanHereck then said that the US intelligence community was able to determine the Trump-era transits after the fact "from additional means that made us aware of those balloons that were previously approaching North America or transited North America."

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How about quit hiring "Diversity" hires and Affirmative Action losers, and just DO YOUR FUCKING JOB!
 

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Right. The satellites that us peons are allowed to know about can see an item approximately 12" across on the ground (god knows what a military one can see), but they're unable to detect a rather large "weather" balloon. Ok, nothing to see here, just move on......
 

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Ballons have a low RCS(RADAR CROSS SECTION), typically NORAD uses the over the horizon early warning radar. These radars are in VHF, UHF which can see the balloon but the software in them was designed to ignore slow moving radar returns. Otherwise every bird flying will be on the radar screen along with noise clutter.

Further more these radars don't give accurate BRA (BEARING RANGE ALTITUDE) since they work in the lower frequency band they have extremely good range but poor resolution. This is the reason why US didnt want to give F35 to Turkey because their S400 battery as a VHF radar, but tailor made to see targets with low RCS.

But to destroy the target, you need a tracking radar like the one in Aegis equipped ships or PAC 3 or THAAD. These again have the same problem the software is not designed to track slow moving targets with really low RCS, even though they have some really high powered X band radar which can spot the ballon from several thousand miles away. May be the software needs to be tweaked or some body manning it, needs to be retrained. Since there is no bird flying that high and it has to be a man made object.

In saudi arabia, the refinery was targeted by Iranian drones which are slow moving and the US patriot sites couldn't stop them. So there is certainly some limitations.

The public will never know.
 

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Ballons have a low RCS(RADAR CROSS SECTION), typically NORAD uses the over the horizon early warning radar. These radars are in VHF, UHF which can see the balloon but the software in them was designed to ignore slow moving radar returns. Otherwise every bird flying will be on the radar screen along with noise clutter.

Further more these radars don't give accurate BRA (BEARING RANGE ALTITUDE) since they work in the lower frequency band they have extremely good range but poor resolution. This is the reason why US didnt want to give F35 to Turkey because their S400 battery as a VHF radar, but tailor made to see targets with low RCS.

But to destroy the target, you need a tracking radar like the one in Aegis equipped ships or PAC 3 or THAAD. These again have the same problem the software is not designed to track slow moving targets with really low RCS, even though they have some really high powered X band radar which can spot the ballon from several thousand miles away. May be the software needs to be tweaked or some body manning it, needs to be retrained. Since there is no bird flying that high and it has to be a man made object.

In saudi arabia, the refinery was targeted by Iranian drones which are slow moving and the US patriot sites couldn't stop them. So there is certainly some limitations.

The public will never know.
Stealth Balloons ;)

Went to a Boat Show this year, we were told of a new sonar that can identify type/species of fish.


Understand what you are stating but this Balloon was definitely no bird, it was the size of three buses, regardless it's altitude. Someone is definitely dropping the ball here...
 

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