Spiderwebs throwing lots of alerts

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bob.m

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Dec 24, 2015
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I don't know if others have this issue but it seems that every so often I'll get a spiderweb across one of my cameras and will wake up to 50+ email alerts due to the constant triggering. I then (the following day) go out and clean them off but I'm wondering if there is a setting in BI that can say -- I did too many alerts and am going to take some time off.

Of course the flip side of that is that I don't want the alerts to stop if multiple real events are happening. I've looked at the settings under Alerts but they all would seem to conflict with getting real alerts. Note that the time between alerts from the spiderweb is anywhere from 1 minute to every 5 minutes.

Thanks for any suggestions.
 
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Or force it in color.

I have sprayed some bug spray around the cameras that can help for a bit.

You could try the object detection to cancel any triggers above a certain % and may or may not work depending on your field of view.

You can add alert timeouts, but as you mentioned, it can cause you to miss a real trigger.

Or try the Deepstack Integration that has knocked it out for many if you do not have a camera with AI built in.
 
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I was also going to suggest using some sort of AI triggers. Some cameras (like the Dahua 5442 series) have very good AI built right into the camera software. Otherwise you can use Deepstack AI with BI to cut down on the false triggers.
 
bob.m said:
Thx all, guess I need to bite that bullet next. AI here I come.
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no need to buy the new bullet, just get the latest version of BI, it has AI features built in.

See this thread for example:

Hell Yeah! Direct Deepstack Integration - 5.4.0 - March 31, 2021

Being a stubborn old coot and not wanting to give up I started fooling, yet again, with DeepStack. I think I got it working properly, finally. In the interest of saving someone, anyone, the same frustrations this is what I ended up doing. The "confidence" level is set at a default of 50%. I...
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The Automation Guy said:
I was also going to suggest using some sort of AI triggers. Some cameras (like the Dahua 5442 series) have very good AI built right into the camera software. Otherwise you can use Deepstack AI with BI to cut down on the false triggers.
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Can BI make use of AI built into a camera as it's trigger to record and notify? Or is it only of use I'd Paired with an NVR if the same mfg?
 
nbstl68 said:
Can BI make use of AI built into a camera as it's trigger to record and notify? Or is it only of use I'd Paired with an NVR if the same mfg?
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I've havent tried it b4 but there is a check box "Camera's digital or motion alarm" under trigger for your camera settings. I think that will work.
 
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Can BI make use of AI built into a camera as it's trigger to record and notify? Or is it only of use I'd Paired with an NVR if the same mfg?
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Yes, you can make BI trigger and record when the camera's AI detects something. You just set BI to trigger on the ONVIF trigger that the camera sends out when the AI gets triggered (under the "Record" tab of the BI camera setup menu). It works very well and uses the processing power of the camera instead of the processing power of the BI computer to do all this.
 
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Yes, you can make BI trigger and record when the camera's AI detects something. You just set BI to trigger on the ONVIF trigger that the camera sends out when the AI gets triggered (under the "Record" tab of the BI camera setup menu). It works very well and uses the processing power of the camera instead of the processing power of the BI computer to do all this.
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Plus you have to check the motion settings to pull the digital output under the motion tab.

But yes it works very well.
 
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As other have said Deepstack AI has completely stopped spiders, webs and bugs setting off my alerts but before that I had good success by spraying the camera body and surrounding wall area with silicon spray lubricant (don’t get it on the lens) – none of the bug sprays worked for me.

I used this brand, but they should all be the same

www.screwfix.com

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CrazyAsYou said:
As other have said Deepstack AI has completely stopped spiders, webs and bugs setting off my alerts but before that I had good success by spraying the camera body and surrounding wall area with silicon spray lubricant (don’t get it on the lens) – none of the bug sprays worked for me.

I used this brand, but they should all be the same

www.screwfix.com

WD-40 Silicone Lubricant 400ml - Screwfix

Order online at Screwfix.com. WD-40 specialist high performance silicone lubricant that prevents parts from sticking. With integral smart straw system for ease of use. Use on wood, metal, rubber and plastic. Can be used on high pressure equipment. Withstands temperatures of -35°C to 200°C...
www.screwfix.com www.screwfix.com
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How long would it stay effective?
 
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