- Mar 6, 2015
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Hello!
I hope I lay out the situation nicely here so as to make it easy for you guys to help me out.
I am a hobbyist of IP cameras for about 11 years, with experience in D-Link and Axis IP cameras and basic network infrastructure and installation skills and I live in South Africa. Now onto the problem:
Overview:
We would like to install 2 IP cameras in our complex, covering all pedestrian and vehicle traffic going through them. The vehicles will always be halted when going through due to the gate always being closed.
The cameras should be able to effectively ID people and vehicles (license plates) at night, including during a power blackout. Each gate has a 32W Spotlight that contributes approximately 2-5 lux to each gate, which might stay powered during a blackout (especially if necessary) depending on whether or not the camera comes with an adequate IR light (or a separate IR light that can be powered over Ethernet).
The total budget is up to R30000 ($2591,42), however R10000 of that is expected to be used for the network infrastructure and UPS system.
The cameras themselves and the network infrastructure will have power backup through a UPS system.
The camera is expected to be zoomed in to the gates themselves and a little bit extra to the sides ( about 1 to 2 meters extra). The cameras could be placed at several possible positions each. Further details on positions, distances, scene widths and FoVs are given at the West gate and East gate details sections.
The problem here that needs to be resolved, is picking the right IP camera, with the right zoom levels (possibly separate lenses), with the right supplementary IR or white lighting (if necessary and the existing 32W White spotlights can be used) and at the right positions in order meet all of the following requirements:
Essential Requirements:
* R20000 ($1727,62) budget for both cameras, their enclosures and IR lights if applicable
* Water resistant external enclosure. Temperature range is -5°C to 27°C (sunlight will cause maximum to rise)
* PoE
* On camera recording (such as Axis Edge)
* Color at night
* Identify faces at night and during a blackout (Keeping the 32W spotlights on via backup power is an option)
* Identify license plates at night and during a blackout (Keeping the 32W spotlights on via backup power is an option)
Would be nice (non essential\bonus requirements):
* Vandal resistant enclosure
* Identify faces inside vehicles at night
* Good enough image quality at night during blackout to allow LPR (License plate recognition) software
* 2 MP or more
* Still Identify faces and license plates at night during a blackout without any of the original lighting (even the 32W spotlights)
* Be able to centrally access all camera recordings at once from one client (such as AXIS Camera Companion)
Planned network infrastrucutre:
* TP-LINK TL-SF1008P 8 port 100Mbs switch (4 ports are PoE): 8-Port 10/100Mbps Desktop Switch with 4-Port PoE TL-SF1008P - Welcome to TP-LINK
* TP-LINK TL-WA7210N 2.4GHz 12dBi 150Mbps outdoor access point: 2.4GHz 150Mbps Outdoor Wireless Access Point TL-WA7210N - Welcome to TP-LINK
* APC ProtectNet standalone Ethernet PoE surge protector: Product Overview for APC ProtectNet standalone surge protector for 10/100/1000 Base-T Ethernet lines | APC
* ~140m Cat5e cabling (about 70m on average per camera)
Thoughts on a solution:
I was looking at the Axis Q1614, but with a high zoom lens and housing, I will most likely end up paying R16000 ($1351,72) per camera. I may be looking at competing companies that provide cheaper cameras with equal performance, but I am unfamiliar with any of Axis's competitors and what their cameras are like, so some assistance here would be nice. I am also leaning towards providing power backup to the existing 32W white lights to provide guaranteed lighting levels, though it would be nice if the camera has good enough night time performance to detect details in the surrounding darker areas. As for positions, I am leaning towards Position 2 for both West and East gates.
Area Map:
East Gate:
View from the gate itself showing the 2 positions.
Actual Gate length: 4.009m
Position 1:
View from position 1
Scene details:
* Distance to gate from position 1 is 22.66m
* Approximate width of scene: 6m
* Estimated FOV: 15.08 Deg
Position 2:
View from position 2
Scene details:
* Distance to gate from position 2 is 30.13m
* Approximate width of scene: 6m
* Estimated FOV: 11.37 Deg
Night time conditions:
A picture that closely approximates what a human would see in these conditions (taken from no particular position). The 32W spotlight on the left might be kept on in in a blackout, depending on the upcoming installation.
Conditions:
* Ambient lighting: Half Moon, clear sky with lighting
* Lighting level just in front of gate: 6 lux (lower during blackout, depending on if 32W spotlight is kept on)
* Color temperature just in front of gate: 3434K
West Gate:
View from the gate itself showing the 3 positions.
Actual Gate length: 4.504m
Position 1:
View from position 1
Scene details:
* Distance to gate from position 1 is 20.6m
* Approximate width of scene: 5m
* Estimated FOV: 13.84 Deg
Position 2:
View from position 2
Scene details:
* Distance to gate from position 2 is 16.66m
* Approximate width of scene: 5m
* Estimated FOV: 17.07 Deg
Position 3:
View from position 3
Scene details:
* Distance to gate from position 3 is 23.05m
* Approximate width of scene: 5m
* Estimated FOV: 12.38 Deg
Night time conditions:
A picture that closely approximates what a human would see in these conditions (taken from no particular position). The 32W spotlight on the right might be kept on in in a blackout, depending on the upcoming installation.
Conditions:
* Ambient lighting: Half Moon, clear sky with lighting
* Lighting level just in front of gate: 6 lux (lower during blackout, depending on if 32W spotlight is kept on)
* Color temperature just in front of gate: 3154K
I hope I lay out the situation nicely here so as to make it easy for you guys to help me out.
I am a hobbyist of IP cameras for about 11 years, with experience in D-Link and Axis IP cameras and basic network infrastructure and installation skills and I live in South Africa. Now onto the problem:
Overview:
We would like to install 2 IP cameras in our complex, covering all pedestrian and vehicle traffic going through them. The vehicles will always be halted when going through due to the gate always being closed.
The cameras should be able to effectively ID people and vehicles (license plates) at night, including during a power blackout. Each gate has a 32W Spotlight that contributes approximately 2-5 lux to each gate, which might stay powered during a blackout (especially if necessary) depending on whether or not the camera comes with an adequate IR light (or a separate IR light that can be powered over Ethernet).
The total budget is up to R30000 ($2591,42), however R10000 of that is expected to be used for the network infrastructure and UPS system.
The cameras themselves and the network infrastructure will have power backup through a UPS system.
The camera is expected to be zoomed in to the gates themselves and a little bit extra to the sides ( about 1 to 2 meters extra). The cameras could be placed at several possible positions each. Further details on positions, distances, scene widths and FoVs are given at the West gate and East gate details sections.
The problem here that needs to be resolved, is picking the right IP camera, with the right zoom levels (possibly separate lenses), with the right supplementary IR or white lighting (if necessary and the existing 32W White spotlights can be used) and at the right positions in order meet all of the following requirements:
Essential Requirements:
* R20000 ($1727,62) budget for both cameras, their enclosures and IR lights if applicable
* Water resistant external enclosure. Temperature range is -5°C to 27°C (sunlight will cause maximum to rise)
* PoE
* On camera recording (such as Axis Edge)
* Color at night
* Identify faces at night and during a blackout (Keeping the 32W spotlights on via backup power is an option)
* Identify license plates at night and during a blackout (Keeping the 32W spotlights on via backup power is an option)
Would be nice (non essential\bonus requirements):
* Vandal resistant enclosure
* Identify faces inside vehicles at night
* Good enough image quality at night during blackout to allow LPR (License plate recognition) software
* 2 MP or more
* Still Identify faces and license plates at night during a blackout without any of the original lighting (even the 32W spotlights)
* Be able to centrally access all camera recordings at once from one client (such as AXIS Camera Companion)
Planned network infrastrucutre:
* TP-LINK TL-SF1008P 8 port 100Mbs switch (4 ports are PoE): 8-Port 10/100Mbps Desktop Switch with 4-Port PoE TL-SF1008P - Welcome to TP-LINK
* TP-LINK TL-WA7210N 2.4GHz 12dBi 150Mbps outdoor access point: 2.4GHz 150Mbps Outdoor Wireless Access Point TL-WA7210N - Welcome to TP-LINK
* APC ProtectNet standalone Ethernet PoE surge protector: Product Overview for APC ProtectNet standalone surge protector for 10/100/1000 Base-T Ethernet lines | APC
* ~140m Cat5e cabling (about 70m on average per camera)
Thoughts on a solution:
I was looking at the Axis Q1614, but with a high zoom lens and housing, I will most likely end up paying R16000 ($1351,72) per camera. I may be looking at competing companies that provide cheaper cameras with equal performance, but I am unfamiliar with any of Axis's competitors and what their cameras are like, so some assistance here would be nice. I am also leaning towards providing power backup to the existing 32W white lights to provide guaranteed lighting levels, though it would be nice if the camera has good enough night time performance to detect details in the surrounding darker areas. As for positions, I am leaning towards Position 2 for both West and East gates.
Area Map:

East Gate:

View from the gate itself showing the 2 positions.
Actual Gate length: 4.009m
Position 1:

View from position 1

Scene details:
* Distance to gate from position 1 is 22.66m
* Approximate width of scene: 6m
* Estimated FOV: 15.08 Deg
Position 2:

View from position 2

Scene details:
* Distance to gate from position 2 is 30.13m
* Approximate width of scene: 6m
* Estimated FOV: 11.37 Deg
Night time conditions:

A picture that closely approximates what a human would see in these conditions (taken from no particular position). The 32W spotlight on the left might be kept on in in a blackout, depending on the upcoming installation.
Conditions:
* Ambient lighting: Half Moon, clear sky with lighting
* Lighting level just in front of gate: 6 lux (lower during blackout, depending on if 32W spotlight is kept on)
* Color temperature just in front of gate: 3434K
West Gate:

View from the gate itself showing the 3 positions.
Actual Gate length: 4.504m
Position 1:

View from position 1

Scene details:
* Distance to gate from position 1 is 20.6m
* Approximate width of scene: 5m
* Estimated FOV: 13.84 Deg
Position 2:

View from position 2

Scene details:
* Distance to gate from position 2 is 16.66m
* Approximate width of scene: 5m
* Estimated FOV: 17.07 Deg
Position 3:

View from position 3

Scene details:
* Distance to gate from position 3 is 23.05m
* Approximate width of scene: 5m
* Estimated FOV: 12.38 Deg
Night time conditions:

A picture that closely approximates what a human would see in these conditions (taken from no particular position). The 32W spotlight on the right might be kept on in in a blackout, depending on the upcoming installation.
Conditions:
* Ambient lighting: Half Moon, clear sky with lighting
* Lighting level just in front of gate: 6 lux (lower during blackout, depending on if 32W spotlight is kept on)
* Color temperature just in front of gate: 3154K