Pandemic threat? Anyone else concerned?
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bigredfish
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They can all go straight to Hell
The Great Pandemic Walkback
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The pattern is now clearly established. Major figures in and around the pandemic response are slowly walking back all the major claims surrounding the global compulsory regime that ruled life for two and a half years. And each statement is pointing to the same reality. The critics were correct all along. Yes, the very people whose social media accounts were throttled and banned for spreading supposed disinformation.
Consider the statement by Dr. Robert Redfield, former director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). His tenure there overlapped with the beginning of the lockdowns but he always seemed out of his element, outrun and overwhelmed by the bureaucratic miasma that washed through the agency at the time.
He has always tried to be a team player but you can sense his bitterness today. He knows the power of his words and is choosing them carefully now. In the past, he has said decisively that the idea that the pathogen was a gain-of-function lab leak was indeed possible. He was never a great enthusiast for the vaccine, even making a video in 2020 in which he said that a homemade mask might be more effective.
In other words, he was never on board with the whole plan. He was even excluded from meeting with Fauci/Birx and company.
Now he has come out and said what many people said from the beginning. He says that healthy people under the age of 60 never really needed the shots, and, further, that the injuries from the shots are high and must be recognized and acknowledged. True, this is information that everyone who has kept up already knows. What’s significant is the source.
“Those of us that tried to suggest there may be significant side effects from vaccines ... we kind of got canceled because no one wanted to talk about the potential that there was a problem from the vaccines, because they were afraid that that would cause people not to want to get vaccinated,” Dr. Redfield said.
The Great Pandemic Walkback
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The pattern is now clearly established. Major figures in and around the pandemic response are slowly walking back all the major claims surrounding the global compulsory regime that ruled life for two and a half years. And each statement is pointing to the same reality. The critics were correct all along. Yes, the very people whose social media accounts were throttled and banned for spreading supposed disinformation.
Consider the statement by Dr. Robert Redfield, former director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). His tenure there overlapped with the beginning of the lockdowns but he always seemed out of his element, outrun and overwhelmed by the bureaucratic miasma that washed through the agency at the time.
He has always tried to be a team player but you can sense his bitterness today. He knows the power of his words and is choosing them carefully now. In the past, he has said decisively that the idea that the pathogen was a gain-of-function lab leak was indeed possible. He was never a great enthusiast for the vaccine, even making a video in 2020 in which he said that a homemade mask might be more effective.
In other words, he was never on board with the whole plan. He was even excluded from meeting with Fauci/Birx and company.
Now he has come out and said what many people said from the beginning. He says that healthy people under the age of 60 never really needed the shots, and, further, that the injuries from the shots are high and must be recognized and acknowledged. True, this is information that everyone who has kept up already knows. What’s significant is the source.
“Those of us that tried to suggest there may be significant side effects from vaccines ... we kind of got canceled because no one wanted to talk about the potential that there was a problem from the vaccines, because they were afraid that that would cause people not to want to get vaccinated,” Dr. Redfield said.
I wonder how many would want to go back?
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What a SNAFUI wonder how many would want to go back?
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Oceanslider
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All these years and it looks like I got Covid. I might have Covid and a flu. Actually I don’t think I’ve had a cold or flu in at least 6 years. Feel like my head’s going to explode and can’t keep anything down, including water or electrolyte. My temperature is 99.5. Doctor prescribed Paxlovid.
bigredfish
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Ughh
Best wishes to you sir. Hopefully the worst is behind you.
Best wishes to you sir. Hopefully the worst is behind you.
Paxlovid is a blocker like Ivermectin...mine was a 3 day ride then fatigue for a week...
Oceanslider
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I’m not up to date on all this. Did you take Paxlovid? I don’t have ivermectin.
bigredfish
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I'm not qualified to give medical advice.
Search for paxlovid on the forum. The 3-4 people I know who took it developed rebound cases shortly after recovering, from a week to a few months. Debatable on whether it helped them or not
This is the most recent "official" study I found with a quick search
(Nirmatrelvir in combination with ritonavir IS paxlovid)
Search for paxlovid on the forum. The 3-4 people I know who took it developed rebound cases shortly after recovering, from a week to a few months. Debatable on whether it helped them or not
This is the most recent "official" study I found with a quick search
(Nirmatrelvir in combination with ritonavir IS paxlovid)
Oceanslider
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I have a friend with Ivermectin. I’m 24hrs into this. Too late to start Ivermectin?
bigredfish
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In theory no. First 2-3 days is supposed to be most effective
bigredfish
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This is the protocol my wife followed and what I would follow if I get it
D3 is very important along with zinc which helps it work
D3 is very important along with zinc which helps it work
I took Ivermectin...Pfizer did not have Paxlovid out back then.
I took the Vitamins bigredfish mentioned, actually still taking them, D3, Zinc. The key is to keep your immune system up during the Covid attack...I would monitor your Blood Oxygen levels:
These are cheap enough at your local pharmacy...mainly keeping it in the 90s is the key. It will be lower than your norm with your Coronavirus...My wife runs 98 average, I am in the mid 90s...I think Docs want you 95 or higher, or at least mine does..
The whole respirator thing was all about Blood Oxygen levels...common with respiratory infections...
I have known several family/friends who took Paxloxid, their Docs prescribe it. Some experienced side effects, I remember one telling us she had muscle craps, issues after taking it.
If it were me, I would get with your friend about the Ivermectin. I have yet have anyone tell me of ANY side effects with Ivermectin...Actually we had a neighbor who took it daily like a vitamin, I assume preventive...he was a big guy with health issues.
Lastly, this is my Opinion for what it is worth, I believe getting through Covid-19 is all bout how strong your immune system is. Like fighting any cold or infection you want to be taking any supplements that will help. Vitamin C is a big help for many things...you just don't want to be deficient on anything your body needs.
My wife is much healthier than I. We both got Covid together and she had Zero symptoms, where as this over weight old guy had 102 fever for 3 days...and I will say, the Ivermectin Definitely helped me with breathing. I have actually had worse colds than the Covid bout I went through. Was it the Ivermectin? My vote is yes...
Hang in there, it will pass soon. Whatever you do, if you end up in the hospital, DO NOT take Remdesiver.
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This is a good video to watch. Basically Pfizer made an Ivermectin 2.0 We call it here Pfizermectin...they copied the structure of how Ivermectin is a blocker...and not to get into why Pfizer or any of Big Pharma did not offer the very cheap cost Ivermectin but had to make their own, which I have been told is $60 a pill where as ivermectin cost 6 cents...
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Take the paxlovid and take the full course. Consider temporarily stopping other medications you're taking as paxlovid can interact strongly with some medications. You may experience a bit of a rebound at around 5 days, but if that happens it's due to the virus not the medication.
You don't need and shouldn't take ivermectin unless you have worms. Every credible study has shown it has no effect on Covid.
Can you share those studies?
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This part is simply not true. Ivermectin is one of the safest drugs ever prescribed. Many studies since 2022 have shown it to be effective. It won a Nobel prize in 2015 and was approved for human use in 1987. It is being studied by the same institutions that condemned it just a few years ago as an anti cancer drug.
That said, it’s up to each individual to decide if it’s right for them.
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One of many dozens of studies by legit institutions and scientists. It would take me hours to copy/paste and list them all here. Here's one
Background
Ivermectin is a Food and Drug Administration-approved broad-spectrum antiparasitic agent, initially approved for humans in 1987 to treat onchocerciasis and awarded the Nobel Prize of Medicine to the discoverers in 2015. Its primary use is treating infections caused by roundworm parasites. However, over the years, the spectrum was extended to include a variety of parasitic skin infections, such as scabies
In the last decade, several in vitrostudies have shown its antiviral activity against a broad range of viruses, mainly RNA viruses, including HIV, influenza, and several flaviviruses such as Dengue virus, Zika, and West Nile Virus (Ivermectin was tested in vitroagainst SARS-CoV-2 and showed ∼5000-fold reduction (99.8%) in viral RNA after 48 hours. However, it was criticized that the dosing used in the study cannot be achieved with the currently approved dose, and its anti-SARS-CoV-2 activity in humans has never been proven
Ivermectin has anti-inflammatory properties Because the excessive inflammatory response to SARS-CoV-2 is thought to be a major cause of disease severity and death in patients with COVID-19, ivermectin may have a different value in addition to its antiviral properties
With its good safety profile, ivermectin is a potential treatment against COVID-19 in its different stages. Some clinical studies and meta-analyses have shown beneficial results regarding clinical outcomes and the length of viral shedding; however, most of them lack a high standard of rigorous methodology
Here we conducted a double-blinded randomized control trial (RCT) to assess whether ivermectin shows anti-SARS-Cov-2 activity as reflected by shortening the viral shedding in nonhospitalized patients in the early stage of COVID-19 infection. In addition, we were able to test and show the impact of ivermectin on culture viability.
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This list is from the early days of 2022. Many more since, I'll try and find that update..
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Regular Use of Ivermectin as Prophylaxis for COVID-19 Led Up to a 92% Reduction in COVID-19 Mortality Rate in a Dose-Response Manner: Results of a Prospective Observational Study of a Strictly Controlled Population of 88,012 Subjects
Background We have previously demonstrated that ivermectin used as prophylaxis for coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), irrespective of the regularity, in a strictly controlled citywide program in Southern Brazil (Itajaí, Brazil), was associated with reductions in COVID-19 infection...
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Ivermectin for Prevention and Treatment of COVID-19 Infection: A Systematic Review, Meta-analysis, and Trial Sequential Analysis to Inform Clinical Guidelines
Repurposed medicines may have a role against the SARS-CoV-2 virus. The antiparasitic ivermectin, with antiviral and anti-inflammatory properties, has now been tested in numerous clinical trials.We assessed the efficacy of ivermectin treatment in reducing ...
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Ivermectin has New Application in Inhibiting Colorectal Cancer Cell Growth - PubMed
Colorectal cancer (CRC) is the third most common cancer worldwide and still lacks effective therapy. Ivermectin, an antiparasitic drug, has been shown to possess anti-inflammation, anti-virus, and antitumor properties. However, whether ivermectin affects CRC is still unclear. The objective of...
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Ivermectin efficacy finally proven in ‘gold-standard’ RCT – Prof Colleen Aldous
A RCT on Ivermectin efficacy for preventing and treating COVID-19 has been released, as discussed in this article by Prof Colleen Aldous.
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Ivermectin, a potential anticancer drug derived from an antiparasitic drug
Ivermectin has powerful antitumor effects, including the inhibition of proliferation, metastasis, and angiogenic activity, in a variety of cancer cells. This may be related to the regulation of multiple signaling pathways by ivermectin through PAK1 kinase. ...
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Ivermectin: enigmatic multifaceted ‘wonder’ drug continues to surprise and exceed expectations - The Journal of Antibiotics
Over the past decade, the global scientific community have begun to recognize the unmatched value of an extraordinary drug, ivermectin, that originates from a single microbe unearthed from soil in Japan. Work on ivermectin has seen its discoverer, Satoshi Ōmura, of Tokyo’s prestigious Kitasato...
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COVID-19 Excess Deaths in Peru’s 25 States in 2020: Nationwide Trends, Confounding Factors, and Correlations With the Extent of Ivermectin Treatment by State
Introduction In 2020, nations hastened to contain an emerging COVID-19 pandemic by deploying diverse public health approaches, but conclusive appraisals of the efficacy of these approaches are elusive in most cases. One of the medicines deployed, ivermectin (IVM), a macrocyclic lactone having...
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Many fake studies have been exposed:
The Last of The "Big Seven" Fraudulent Ivermectin Trials Has Finally Been Published
Oxford's long delayed PRINCIPLE trial just set a new record for ivermectin research fraud when they silently published it as a negative study despite their data showing profoundly positive impacts.
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Popular Paper On Ivermectin And COVID-19 Contains False Information | ZeroHedge
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bigredfish
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There are also many, possibly even more convincing, studies on Hydroxychloroquine effectiveness, but thats for another day.