Pandemic threat? Anyone else concerned?

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Except for that first bullet point

  • The COVID-19 vaccine effectively reduces the cases of severe illness and death, IF within the period of time 3-6 months before it’s effectiveness diminishes…
 

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This is why Fred and Ethel believe what they hear on MSM and from the gummit. They play with words and the feeble minded take it at face value with no attempt to research it.

Also:
The Lancet is not the resource some think it is. We had a discussion of them some ways back. Not who they portray themselves as. So I give limited credit to their findings.

I also have trouble reconciling that piece with the actual data showing deaths in UK in October a few pages back.
 
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'Propaganda': Experts rip CDC study claiming vax offers stronger protection than natural immunity

The new study contradicts a much larger Israeli study this summer.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention published an "early release" study last week that uses a highly curated population to purportedly show that mRNA-vaccinated people have a much lower rate of reinfection by COVID-19 than naturally immune people, contradicting a much larger Israeli study this summer.

The CDC study concludes: "All eligible persons should be vaccinated against COVID-19 as soon as possible, including unvaccinated persons previously infected with SARS-CoV-2."

The study analyzed "COVID-19–like illness hospitalizations among adults" across nine states from January through Sept. 2. Because public health authorities portrayed vaccination as the best way to avoid hospitalization, it's less likely that vaccinated people would seek hospitalization, thus hiding their breakthrough infections relative to the naturally immune.

Attorney Jenin Younes, whose New Civil Liberties Alliance (NCLA) files legal challenges against COVID vaccine mandates, tweeted that the study contradicts a meta-analysis touted by the CDC, which found "no significant difference" in protection between vaccination and natural immunity.

Immunologist Hooman Noorchashm, the medical expert for multiple NCLA challenges, called the study "another teleological piece of propaganda" by the CDC because it excludes the Johnson & Johnson vaccine and likely includes recovered people in the vaccinated group.

Harvard Medical School epidemiologist Martin Kulldorff tweeted that the study has a "major statistical flaw" — falsely portraying hospitalized respiratory patients as "representative of the population" — which renders the odds ratio "wrong."

Former New York Times journalist Alex Berenson argued the study "is meaningless gibberish that would never have been published if the agency did not face huge political pressure to get people vaccinated." It's not even clear enough naturally immune people were hospitalized to reach statistical significance, he said, noting there's no unadjusted odds ratio.

https:/justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/monteleological-propaganda
 
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NHS accused of 'lying' about Covid stats to promote vaccination

NHS chief Amanda Pritchard claimed that 14 times as many Covid-19 patients are in Britain’s hospitals as this time last year. However, even the NHS itself has admitted that Pritchard’s claim uses misleading figures.

Multiple news reports on Monday told the same story: Britain’s hospitals are seeing “14 times more coronavirus patients than this time last year,” and the country faces a “difficult winter,” as people gather indoors, where the virus is more likely to spread.

The source of the “14 times” figure is Amanda Pritchard, Chief Executive of NHS England. Pritchard used the apparently alarming surge in hospitalisations to encourage the 4.5 million Britons who still haven’t gotten vaccinated to roll up their sleeves, and those eligible to take their third shot of the vaccine.

However, NHS data shows that Pritchard’s figures are false. According to the health service, a 7-day average of 9,331 Covid-19 patients were in hospital at the beginning of November, compared to 12,654 a year earlier. Just over 1,000 people per day were being admitted to hospital at the end of October, compared to 1,500 last year.

Pritchard was swiftly accused of peddling fake news, with commentators warning that such misleading figures were straying into “resignation territory.”

Amid a growing clamour online, NHS officials told reporters shortly afterwards that Pritchard was citing figures from August 2021 compared to August 2020. Hospital admissions were indeed 14 times higher this August than in 2020, but only for several days toward the end of the month. Since then, they have trended downwards and are now comparable to last year’s rate.

However, hospitalisations persist despite the fact that nine out of 10 people over the age of 12 in the UK have received at least one dose of a Covid-19 vaccine, according to NHS statistics. Rising cases too have called into question the long-term efficacy of the jabs, but government officials still insist on vaccination as key to defeating the virus – and studies suggest those vaccinated patients still fare better if they catch the virus.

As Pritchard called on the population to get vaccinated or go in for booster jabs, former Health Secretary Matt Hancock called on Monday for the government to mandate vaccines for healthcare workers. “There is no respectable argument left not to force health and social care workers to get jabbed,” he wrote in The Telegraph, calling the vaccine “the only reason for the safe return of our liberty.”

https:/www.rt.com/uk/539687-nhs-covid-patients-fake-news/
 

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This is why Fred and Ethel believe what they hear on MSM and from the gummit. They play with words and the feeble minded take it at face value with no attempt to research it.

Also:
The Lancet is not the resource some think it is. We had a discussion of them some ways back. Not who they portray themselves as. So I give limited credit to their findings.

I also have trouble reconciling that piece with the actual data showing deaths in UK in October a few pages back.
Trust-the-science & Trust-the-MSM:rolleyes:

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Breaking News: Moderna and the U.S. are in a patent dispute over the company's Covid vaccine, with potential consequences for future distribution and profits.
 

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