So in the Onvif device manager, I was comparing the trouble camera with the other cameras (geovision, dahua, ebay brand x, etc). The new one that i am having trouble with shows these IP's:
192.168.1.208, 169.254.10.200, 169.254.10.100
The first IP is the correct IP, the other two are not mine & I wonder if thats causing the problems. None of my other cameras have that. I cant figure how to do a full factory default on the camera to shake all that backdoor nonsense out of the camera
I tried the regular default but it remember the IP & user info which probably means its not defaulting eveyrthing to factory.