Would a T58IR work best here?

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camarolt1guy

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I'm trying to get a camera to replace this one. I want one that can use the same view ( down just a bit) but have enough clarity to see the colors of the traffic lights. I get a ton of crashes here and that's the first thing the Cops ask, is if I can see the color of the lights. Would a T58IR be good here since it's a higher MP camera and it's always lit up good or should I go with the T54IR? I would go ptz but that out of my budget. When possible I plan to get a dedicated camera just to point there.
The image is a 1080p camera so I know it can improve alot anyways.
Thanks in advance
 

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camarolt1guy said:
I'm trying to get a camera to replace this one. I want one that can use the same view ( down just a bit) but have enough clarity to see the colors of the traffic lights. I get a ton of crashes here and that's the first thing the Cops ask, is if I can see the color of the lights. Would a T58IR be good here since it's a higher MP camera and it's always lit up good or should I go with the T54IR? I would go ptz but that out of my budget. When possible I plan to get a dedicated camera just to point there.
The image is a 1080p camera so I know it can improve alot anyways.
Thanks in advance
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comparison of 54IR to 58IR at night..
you can answer is 58IR worth a little more resolution...

If You want catch cars & stop lights, then You should choose cam with strong optical zoom.
If this case 54IR-Z4E - with TELE zoom is the best solution...

It start at 43 degree horizontal field of view and goes down to 15..
With this cam You can zoom-in cars & stop light...
This cam is not for wide 90-110 degree horizontal FoV views like normal 54IR...

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You need two cameras to do what you want to do. See your drive and watch over your vehicle as well as see the intersection cars and lights with reasonable good ID

Two very different focus points

I would choose one of each of the two cameras described above
 
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Yeah, that's my plan when my budget allows for an extra camera there. Heres my night time shots. Remember this is a old 1080p system with hardly any adjustments lol. I get blinded by those floodlights across the street.
 

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With the backlight situation you have going you’re not going to ID perps in your driveway anyway. You need coach lights or go to IR for your own property which should come first.
 
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Yeah, that's my plan when my budget allows for an extra camera there. Heres my night time shots. Remember this is a old 1080p system with hardly any adjustments lol. I get blinded by those floodlights across the street.
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one of the features of 54IR is 140db WDR (58IR have only 120db)...
You can easily catch cars, people and strong lights at once without overshooting picture..
 
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I have another camera that faces the other way. Going with the lights kinda and a doorbell cam that gets the truck pretty good. At 1am they finally turn them off and it gets pretty dark. For every camera pointed one way there's another going the opposite direction in most spots.
 
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one of the features of 54IR is 140db WDR (58IR have only 120db)...
You can easily catch cars, people and strong lights at once without overshooting picture..
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I've bookmarked the "general starting setting" I've found on here but I'm sure I'll be back with a ton of questions when I finally get them up and going.
 
I've been chewing on this for a while now and have an updated opinion:

Unless you enjoying providing visual evidence to the police, if I was in your place I'd invest in viewing my own driveway, cars and property and let the city/county/whatever find their own way with regard to the traffic signal. I'd go so far as to insure my cams provides no beneficial view to them.

If it's that important to them, so much so that they see the benefit of your cams, let them install their own as appropriate. You potentially could get drug into something that you most likely will not like.

This is coming from someone who designed, installed and maintained traffic signal and lighting systems in 2 states for over 31 years, 25 years of that was for municipal government. In that time I gave a dozen depositions and was subpoenaed as an expert witness at least a dozen times.
 
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TonyR said:
I've been chewing on this for a while now and have an updated opinion:

Unless you enjoying providing visual evidence to the police, if I was in your place I'd invest in viewing my own driveway, cars and property and let the city/county/whatever find their own way with regard to the traffic signal. I'd go so far as to insure my cams provides no beneficial view to them.

If it's that important to them, so much so that they see the benefit of your cams, let them install their own as appropriate. You potentially could get drug into something that you most likely will not like.

This is coming from someone who designed, installed and maintained traffic signal and lighting systems in 2 states for over 31 years, 25 years of that was for municipal government. In that time I gave a dozen depositions and was subpoenaed as an expert witness at least a dozen times.
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The longer I have had my cameras, and the number of people that I have helped with barely a thanks and no offer to pay me anything for saving them thousands of dollars (not that it was required, but would be nice LOL) and now having to go to court over something that did not impact me one bit because I was nice and gave the police video, it just isn't worth it.

And I am kinda torn on that and like to be helpful, but when it starts costing me, time for people to put their own cameras up if they are concerned about issues on their property.
 
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Yeah I've been over that part of it too. I've had many people knock on the door wanting to know if I have the video to whatever wreck they were in. It's only given to the parties involved or the police. They have solved a ton of otherwise probably unsolvable cases. even being just 1080 cams. Multiple hit and runs, pedestrian hit and run, motorcycle wrecks, a bicycle getting smacked, the occasional high speed chase lol.
That road has 30,000+ daily and this side road has 5,000+ traffic count and everyone seems to run a light or just not pay attention.
I've had lots of people come back and thank me and the cops from the bicycle one. No one has contributed to the cost yet thought lol.
Those two cameras are pointed right there because I myself have almost been hit numerous times just backing out of the driveway from people turning that corner fast or coming out of the store parking lot and not looking. The other reason is that side road is one lane until after the street in the front. Then it goes to 2 lanes but most people start the second lane way back by my side driveway. When they do that the traffic on the other side of the road will try and turn left and end up getting hit because they cant see cars the second lane. Sometimes i end up with cars in the yard or really close to it from those. That little street with the stop sign is almost as bad with wrecks. The city said I need to document all I can and then submit them traffic engineering so they will come and either paint another official lane or mark it off.
Now the red-light one besides catching all those wrecks, it also catches cars that turn and hit the gas. Those chargers, camaros, hellcats and sports bikes can easily hit 70 or more mph before my driveway. Sometimes they fishtail and end up in my across the street neighbors yard. It's definitely interesting here.
 
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hers is a Z4e setup for night plates, roughly 80 foot shot.
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camarolt1guy said:
That's a good Pic too. Is it that one specifically setup for plates at night or do it have profiles that can swap to daytime
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I set up a day profile id i remeber correctly. Or I setup a range encompassing day and night needs by selecting a range for shutter speed. lemme check.
 
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