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bigredfish said:
That and I'm still troubled about his support for the jab
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Remember that very early on, it was his job to do everything he could to stop the virus that all of his experts were telling him it was going to be world changing. At that point in time, he had no reason to believe otherwise. So he started Operation Warp Speed, to get a vaccine as quickly as possible to market to help save lives. Was that the correct thing to do? All the libs were saying that it was bad. Harris even said she would not take a vaccine developed under Trump. But once they won the election, it was quite the opposite.

I can't fault Trump for the vaccine. A President, while having the ultimate word on how to proceed, has to listen to their advisors on things he does not have any expertise in. Unfortunately, those advisors had motives of their own.
 
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samplenhold said:
Remember that very early on, it was his job to do everything he could to stop the virus that all of his experts were telling him it was going to be world changing. At that point in time, he had no reason to believe otherwise. So he started Operation Warp Speed, to get a vaccine as quickly as possible to market to help save lives. Was that the correct thing to do? All the libs were saying that it was bad. Harris even said she would not take a vaccine developed under Trump. But once they won the election, it was quite the opposite.

I can't fault Trump for the vaccine. A President, while having the ultimate word on how to proceed, has to listen to their advisors on things he does not have any expertise in. Unfortunately, those advisors had motives of their own.
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I don’t fault him for operation warp speed. He was dealing with the cards he was dealt.

Yes Trump still thinks the jab is good (last I heard him talk about it.) But Trump also has the personality where he thinks that he is never wrong and will never admit a mistake. (Which I do think is a fault of his.)

I don’t have a problem with people thinking the clot shot is good for them. Your body, your choice.

What I don’t agree with is someone telling me to get the clot shot and demanding everyone else get it.
From everything I’ve heard Trump say about it, he never did endorse the forcing someone to take it who wasn’t comfortable taking it.
 
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samplenhold said:
Remember that very early on, it was his job to do everything he could to stop the virus that all of his experts were telling him it was going to be world changing. At that point in time, he had no reason to believe otherwise. So he started Operation Warp Speed, to get a vaccine as quickly as possible to market to help save lives. Was that the correct thing to do? All the libs were saying that it was bad. Harris even said she would not take a vaccine developed under Trump. But once they won the election, it was quite the opposite.

I can't fault Trump for the vaccine. A President, while having the ultimate word on how to proceed, has to listen to their advisors on things he does not have any expertise in. Unfortunately, those advisors had motives of their own.
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Completely agree, at that time and place most would have done the same thing. I'm talking about now and in the past few years.
 
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bigredfish said:
I think you’re right sir. It will take a while for the titanic to take on enough water to sink.
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My fear about letting it burn down, or standing by and roasting some weenies in the embers, is that internationally I think it could put the idea that North America is ripe for the picking. Imagine a massive Chinese cyber attack or even EMP strike on a disorganized dysfunctional country where the federal government is no longer effectively in control of anything, and the military doesn't have a clue how to respond or a Commander in Chief who can make the decision. It's hard to imagine this crap and acknowledge that it seems this is crossing over from fictional storylines, and it's all really NOT beyond the realm of possibility any more.

Fighting the woke idiots in our government and the hypocritical sick leeches hellbent on Socialism is absolutely necessary, but it needs to be done without projecting weakness worldwide. That is what Trump can do, or at least make progress on achieving.
 
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