I tried to help and you went off the handle defending yourself when I was trying to help you not make a mistake. It's as easy as that. Can you not see that if you can't understand the advert that buying one of these cameras is a bad idea?
For the record... "I didn't go off the handle" as you put it. I wasn't "defending myself." I was trying to clarify what I was asking and pointing out that your response didn't answer the question. You seem to keep wanting to make this about the advice you gave. I didn't ask for advice at any point in
this thread (though I have in others). I'm not making any claims about the quality of your advice. I was courteous and told you, "I appreciate your concern, but it doesn't answer the question I asked." My feelings on advice are simple. If it wasn't asked for, it should be given with the understanding that the person it's given to may or may not dispose of it as he or she will.
You also demonstrated a faulty conclusion that indicates you're assuming a great deal. Namely:
Inability to understand an advert = buying item advertised is a bad idea. First of all, who the hell are you to tell me what is a bad idea
for me? If you want to debate absolute objectivism, perhaps we should take this discussion to a philosophy forum. What might be "bad" to you might be "good" to me. If I wanted what
YOU might consider "good," I'd spend $150 and call it a day. I indicated "cheap" knowing what that means. It's $20, hardly worth losing sleep over after spending $1300 on a surveillance system.
Respectfully, if you're going to lecture me about "seeing" my error in purchasing a camera (pointing out I haven't indicated that I intended to buy THIS camera), I'd ask that YOU "see" that I simply asked about what TVL referred to because I was previously "100%" certain that it was a reference to analog. The ad was contradictory in
my view. I was questioning a datum of my knowledge (tvl = analog). Of course, NOW I see that I was correct in the first place, apparently. If you fail to "see" THAT, I would hope that you could at least see that
Shopping and/or Comparing != Buying. Partly, "understanding" requires that we don't assume what is in someone's mind. All we ever have to go on is what we're told (when not in person to witness other cues).
It's your money and your choice at the end of the day. But if you get that camera and this is confusing you, imagine the possible Chinglish support you get off the seller?
Thank you for recognizing that it's my money. It's a very enlightened stance. But, like I said... I was shopping. While that
sometimes leads to buying, it is far from a foregone conclusion.
I wasn't dancing around the issue or being condescending "It means if you select 700TVL version you will get 720P camera, if you order 750TVL then you will get 960P camera." You haven't gotten under my skin but if you want to completely pick apart and analyse my replies then I'll be reluctant to help in the future.
I
felt condescended to. Thank you for dismissing that feeling. I feel better. I merely told you so they you might take
my advice, if you so choose, so as to not be perceived similarly by others. Feel free to disregard or "appreciate" that advice. It's just my opinion. I promise to not get my nose bent out of shape if you don't agree that it's good advice.
I'll leave it at that and put it down to a misunderstanding not helped by my curt style at times and let bygones be bygones. Edit: Also a few idiots have riled me up recommending rubbish recently (not you), so don't take anything on here personally. I don't make personal attacks on anyone so apologies if it sounded that way.
I have asked for advice on this forum. I think you are one that probably gave me some that I've taken... I don't recall. But, overall, I am satisfied with the system I bought from Nelly's. Most importantly here, I in no way felt you were attacking me. I sincerely hope you feel likewise! I would defend you against anyone here who said you had attacked me personally! No apology necessary.
Here is maybe some better advice:
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Dahu...11&btsid=f7929065-d0a4-4f20-9553-2493a256c1a5 Dahua HFW2100P, ONVIF (yes), PoE (yes), No IR (ok it has but take it to bits and disconnect it). Yes it's twice the price but you are getting over twice the camera.
Thanks for the link. I might actually buy one to try, based on your recommendation. However, that in no way would be a substitute for the question I asked in the OP. I hope I've made that clear now.
Aside from that, one thing I'm looking for in a cheap camera is hideability. I didn't mention that in the OP, because I wasn't looking for suggestions
here. I'd actually asked for those suggestions in
another thread and only had one person reply.
Anyway... no hard feelings on my part. I try to be very precise and deliberate in what I write (and what I read). Having the advantage of the written word gives us all a chance to reread (both posts we write and don't write) to improve understanding. If I've in some way failed to do that here, I apologize and am sincere in asking for anyone to point out my failures in effective writing.
Cheers
Did you not read where I said, "I appreciate the concern?" I'm sorry if my "appreciation" of your advice wasn't sufficient. It's wonderful when a boy scout helps the little old lady across the street.... if she asks.
