Turret on face of a wall

[Noodle]

Hi All,

Planning to get the following as a start up system and proceed from there.

4no: IPC-HDW5231R-ZE
1no: NVR5216-4KS2


Key question, what is/ is there a reason you cant mount a turret directly to the face of a wall, ie its base on the vertical plane? Ie: water ingress, or angle of view achievable?

I know you can get mounts that hold it off a vertical wall or go with a bullet but want to minimise its visibility/ not have obvious cameras on our house and turrets are far more subtle.

Many thanks

Phil

 

[awsum140]

All I can say is that I have one, a turret 2231R-Z, mounted directly to a vertical surface. In my case it's a tree. I did use the appropriate box for it, which adds about an inch and a half of height/projection, but after about eight months of operation my only complaint/problem is that it's prone to wind blown rain/snow getting on the lens. I do plan on making a rain hat for it though. No problem adjusting the field of view, everything rotates more than enough.

 

[crw030]

Sorry, I can't answer your water ingress question 100%, wait for someone with more expertise.

However, I will say that it is pretty common to use a box between the camera and a surface to allow extra space to hold the cables & waterproof network jack, which might otherwise require a significantly larger hole in the wall (something like a 1" hole instead of a tiny one for ethernet cable). So I think you will see lots of threads where people have mounted them on boxes on walls. If they are painted to match the house they virtually disappear unless you know where to look.

Another option you might consider is something smaller form factor, like the mini domes (IPC-HDBW4231F-E2-M & IPC-HDBW4231F-AS). They do not perform as well if exposed to sunlight and will develop issues related to UV and the dome, but they are significantly more discrete than the camera you proposed. Mine is stark white on green siding an no one seems to see it, because the delivery people and other door-to-door salesmen are always surprised when I meet them at the door! I plan to paint them but waiting on the wife to choose a new color for the house before I go to the effort.

 

[Noodle]

great thanks for your replys, i did a quick search but may trawl through the forum a bit more then.

 

[J Sigmo]

The problem won't be water or crud getting into the camera itself because the cable entering the camera is sealed at that entry.

The problem is that the base of the camera (the pedestal) does not provide any seal for the wall (or other mounting surface).

The right mounting box can provide a way to protect the connectors and seal the wall while also making it easy to access everything for installation and future work.

The box that accomplishes all of this that I prefer is the PFA-122.

Here's my post describing that box and how it works:

Dahua 5231 owners - PFA130-E or PFA137

I would probably caulk the interface between the box and the wall to make sure it is well sealed once I had the box mounted.

The beauty of this box is the easy way you can access the connections in the future, but also keep them out of the weather. It also keeps weather and things like paper wasps out of your wall or soffet, etc.

 

[Noodle]

thanks sigmo, really helpful.

 

[smithb]

Here's a pic of my installation. I didn't bother to caulk it and I haven't noticed any water intrusion, yet. The PFA130-E has a gasket on the mounting surface that is supposedly weather tight. If you do caulk it, I'd recommend simply sealing the hole in the wall instead of trying to seal around the edge of the mount. Sealing around the edge could trap water behind the mount. At the very least, leave a gap at the bottom for drainage.

 

[smithb]

Check out my installation thread for some ideas on discrete mounting. I think painting them to match the light fixtures works well. I have a mini wedge right next to my front door at eye level and nobody even notices it.

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