The right camera

[shaids]

Hi,

Random question i believe could help a lot of those that are newbies (Like me ) and others.

When can we use a DOME, BULLET, FISHEYE? I have noticed in some places that some people install bullets cameras when they can use a dome like a small room. Why would that be?

Thanks

Shadi

 

[klasipca]

Domes are usually picky with the mounting because of IR reflection and they generally have small IR lights which are not as good as a few large ones, but from the looks standpoint I think domes are the best.

 

[h901]

- Dome usually when you can mount on a ceiling or similar (usually indoors)
- Bullet when mounting on a wall without ceiling (outside wall)
- Fisheye usually when you want a full view of a place, so mounting in the middle of a shop for example

The above is how I think of it anyway, might be wrong though

 

[fenderman]

Turret style cameras are a superior design...no spiders no ir issues,

 

[Jack B Nimble]

don't buy a dome and don't buy a fisheye

 

[klasipca]

Turret style cameras are a superior design...no spiders no ir issues,

I guess my spiders didn't get the memo they attack all my cams

 

[fenderman]

I guess my spiders didn't get the memo they attack all my cams

maybe its your cameras....ZERO issues with dahua/hikvision turrets whereas bullets get covered in spiders at the same locations. Bullets are pointless, since they offer no advantage over turrets and domes have ir issues.

 

[klasipca]

Oh right, my turrets are now all Longse, probably spiders can also read brand names and have contractual agreement to not mess with Hikvision or Dahua turrets. Maybe I should try scribbling the Hikvision logo on my turrets to see if I can trick them.

 

[fenderman]

Oh right, my turrets are now all Longse, probably spiders can also read brand names and have contractual agreement to not mess with Hikvision or Dahua turrets. Maybe I should try scribbling the Hikvision logo on my turrets to see if I can trick them.

Maybe. All i can tell you is fact from installs in many locations. You are working with a one or two lognse's in one location. There are variables in design between the longse and other cameras. You can make sarcastic snarky remarks however they dont negate the fact that you have limited experience in a single location.
The bottom line is turrets should be considered before any other design.

 

[klasipca]

My point that in my location I have not seen any difference in spider preferences for one type of camera or the other so it's not the reason why I recommend turret design over dome. Btw with my PTZ bullets I could at least "shake" them off.

 

[fenderman]

My point that in my location I have not seen any difference in spider preferences for one type of camera or the other so it's not the reason why I recommend turret design over dome. Btw with my PTZ bullets I could at least "shake" them off.

I am telling the OP from experience that there is a HUGE difference. There is a design difference in the longse that may make the results differ...turrets are also harder to manipulate with the hand or a stick, yes it doesnt matter much for an intruder but if someone starts messing with it it can be a pain to readjust. There are many others here who see the difference as well. Some specifically got rid of bullets because of the spider issues.

 

[nayr]

Bullets are pointless, since they offer no advantage over turrets.

I disagree, find me one dahua Turret with external audio and alarm inputs.. tha's an advantage the bullets offer over turrets. until of course they make a turret w/these features..

also Lens choices are limited, I'd of really preferred a turret for my latest camera.. but finding a 12mm was not in the cards.

 

[fenderman]

I disagree, find me one dahua Turret with external audio and alarm inputs.. tha's an advantage the bullets offer over turrets. until of course they make a turret w/these features..

also Lens choices are limited, I'd of really preferred a turret for my latest camera.. but finding a 12mm was not in the cards.

im talking about the design itself, not the extra connections which most folks never use. Dahua has turrets with a buit in mic and SD card slot. No audio out or alarm connections though. Their new turret offers 12mm motorized..

 

[hiky]

I disagree, find me one dahua Turret with external audio and alarm inputs.. tha's an advantage the bullets offer over turrets. until of course they make a turret w/these features..

also Lens choices are limited, I'd of really preferred a turret for my latest camera.. but finding a 12mm was not in the cards.

Oooo 12mm... long range tight shot, maybe doorway somewhere from a ways back ??

 

[nayr]

guess it depends on how you define long range, only 35-40ft to target.. compared to my other cameras with 60mm optics its not very far heh.

both the alarm input and output on this camera will be utilized, have an outdoor motion sensor and strobe light on the way.. but that motorized turret does look damn sweet.

 

[hiky]

ever thought about laser fences ??

 

[nayr]

for what? I considered them for my big living room window because we leave it cracked open a little for the evaporative cooler in the summer..

but instead I just put normal contact switches on the windows, with a 2nd set of magnets at a vent position.. so I can leave em either closed or partially open and both will register as secure while being able to detect someone opening it far enough to get in.

 

[hiky]

around the full perimeter, redwall is impressively configurable and can work with PTZ, it detects - cam zooms in, GUI lets you configure zones, plants, distances

I dug into redwall for a big install a few months ago, didnt end up doing the job at all but from my research it looked like fun

 

[nayr]

the'd just get buried in snow, and require wiring on both ends.. my real fence is more effective I think

between kids, dogs, rabbits, cats, door to door election/fliers, etc I dont really want to be alerted if someone is in the front yard.. Ive got a pressure mat at the front door to detect someone knocking or punching a code into my deadbolt, the doorbell also is registered, and all gates, doors, windows, mailbox are covered with security sensors and video surveillance.. and I have motion sensors in the back yard covering the valuables.. my PTZ's respond to any of them that are within view.. I even have a parcel box on my front porch next to the door with a contact sensor to detect when it's been opened.

mebe if I ever build a giant back deck I'll put some tripwire sensors in it.. but the span will just be a few feet wide.

 

[hiky]

the'd just get buried in snow, and require wiring on both ends.. my real fence is more effective I think

between kids, dogs, rabbits, cats, door to door election/fliers, etc I dont really want to be alerted if someone is in the front yard.. Ive got a pressure mat at the front door to detect someone knocking or punching a code into my deadbolt, the doorbell also is registered, and all gates, doors, windows, mailbox are covered with security sensors and video surveillance.. and I have motion sensors in the back yard covering the valuables.. my PTZ's respond to any of them that are within view.. I even have a parcel box on my front porch next to the door with a contact sensor to detect when it's been opened.

mebe if I ever build a giant back deck I'll put some tripwire sensors in it.. but the span will just be a few feet wide.

Roof area covered ?? or is this a weak point... que mission impossible music lol