Talk me into this Costco system.

jasauders

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...or not. I'm kind of looking for the 2c of folks who may have used this system as well as those out there who are more experienced with CCTV stuff than I am (which I have no doubt is a large portion of this forum's userbase).

My in laws want cameras. I have cameras at my house. They asked me to hook them up. Okay, fine. I spec'd out two possible solutions that have a small enough price gap in the end it was meaningless to them one vs the other. This isn't so much a comparison of the two solutions below, but *either* of the two solutions below vs the Lorex setup.

Dahua 8 channel NVR + 4x 3mp EyeSurv dome cameras with all the fixings (cat6 cable, UPS, 2TB WD Purple, etc)
(I spec'd them an 8 channel NVR because it is somewhat likely they will eventually adopt 1, maybe 2 additional cameras for their detached garage, bringing the camera count to 5, maybe 6)
vs
i3 server with Bluecherry + 4x 3mp EyeSurv dome cameras with all of the fixings (same as above, plus POE switch, etc)

They looked things over and liked the sound of Bluecherry. It also helps that I run Bluecherry and they've seen it work.

So then I go to Costco tonight and I stumble across an 8 camera + recorder system by Lorex. Supposedly this thing can record all cameras in 1080. It's final price is 499 bucks. This is a bit less than what both of the above options cost them, granted, the above options also include a UPS, a box of cat6 cable, etc etc. So the options above require a bit more to get started, but with more to offer in the end unless I pick up a UPS and whatnot for the Lorex setup.

I can't lie... networking is my world. I know ethernet. I know servers. I know I could set them up a rig with Ubuntu server and Bluecherry in my sleep and it would run like a top without intervention from them. I know Bluecherry is easy to use and they'd have no problem with it. I know with either of the above systems I can pull the cat6 lines, crimp them, plug them in, and call it a day. But I'm trying not to let that tech-guy-bias get in the way of getting them a solution that works. Maybe this Lorex setup is "good enough" for them? Maybe recording in 1080 is a solid baseline? Maybe the 3mp cameras from Nelly's (EyeSurv) I spec'd them are overkill? It may be analog, but maybe the included cables are long enough to hit the intended locations of the cameras, requiring no learning on my part + buying tools to make custom length analog lines?

I'll install anything for them that works. I just have a hard time suggesting something I haven't used (plus given I live in a digital world, it's difficult for me to suggest an analog system as a new install)... and while I haven't used a Dahua NVR personally (one of the two options I offered them above), there's enough out there to make me confident in that recommendation as I'm sure I can figure it out. But this Lorex system... for the price... made me raise an eyebrow. If I can scrap my suggestions and say "look, you can save a few bucks, have a slightly lower (but still 1080) resolution set of cameras, and I can install this Lorex kit for you", I can swallow that pill. But I'm sure "get what you pay for" factors in a bit here, plus the EyeSurvs have a good following as rebranded Dahuas, and I'm sure either the Dahua NVR and Bluecherry rig would both fly.

Anyway, what say you? Is the analog 8 camera Lorex NVR 499 system from Costco too much of a beginner system and/or more low-end than I'm realizing and/or maybe a bit too dated to even consider? Or would the extra cost (and likely further future proofing) my in-laws with either of the two suggested ideas above be more worthwhile?

In the end, I personally would not go for a new install of an analog system with a box kit from Costco. But this isn't an install for me. It's not my house. It's not my money. That's what's causing me to consider all options, even if I personally wouldn't go that route myself.
 
My inlaws done something similar. Except they bought it, and thought it saved them money. One year later I'm installing an IP system on top of it. They wanted more definition in a few key areas.

My advice, if they can afford it, go IP. Analog is cheaper but the IP is just better overall. IMHO
 
My inlaws done something similar. Except they bought it, and thought it saved them money. One year later I'm installing an IP system on top of it. They wanted more definition in a few key areas.

My advice, if they can afford it, go IP. Analog is cheaper but the IP is just better overall. IMHO

Thanks for your insight. I strongly feel that way too. I just wanted to hear it from folks that are certainly more "pro" than I am in this field to tell me "yeah, you're not a biased tech guy, that really is the better way to go despite it running a bit more expensive."
 
Thanks for your insight. I strongly feel that way too. I just wanted to hear it from folks that are certainly more "pro" than I am in this field to tell me "yeah, you're not a biased tech guy, that really is the better way to go despite it running a bit more expensive."

I'm not a pro, just had a similar experience. Also 99% of the people here will say go with IP on a new install.
 
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Its 2016, running coax is simply irresponsible...you can run ethernet and use baluns with these systems but it makes no sense.
 
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