Need NVR recomendation for 3 cameras
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Flintstone61
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The Lorex Product is more user/ consumer friendly as far as Mobile Apps go.
It's more locked down and harder to add non-Lorex devices to.
The Empiretech App usually uses DMSS Mobile app.
Which is more open to adding ONVIF(non-Dahua) devices to.
Empiretech camera selection has more versatility.
The Lorex products ( some of them) can be limited in choices determined by them.
They want you ALL IN on the Lorex eco-system, as do most other Camera system packages.
I personally use the Amcrest ViewPro( DMSS in a skin suit-more USA-centric) for my Empiretech stuff, but I don't know it if works with the Empiretech NVR.
other people will have some input I'm sure.
But I eventually took the leap and went to Blue Iris on my PC.
It's more locked down and harder to add non-Lorex devices to.
The Empiretech App usually uses DMSS Mobile app.
Which is more open to adding ONVIF(non-Dahua) devices to.
Empiretech camera selection has more versatility.
The Lorex products ( some of them) can be limited in choices determined by them.
They want you ALL IN on the Lorex eco-system, as do most other Camera system packages.
I personally use the Amcrest ViewPro( DMSS in a skin suit-more USA-centric) for my Empiretech stuff, but I don't know it if works with the Empiretech NVR.
other people will have some input I'm sure.
But I eventually took the leap and went to Blue Iris on my PC.
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A POE NVR puts the cameras on their own private network, isolating them from the Interent. Here's the hardware details on => amazon.
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Lorex has an nvr that can use 8 poe cameras and 8 Wi-Fi cameras. Does empire tek have something similar?
You really do not want wifi cameras.
We see people come here all the time and went that route and they just flat out miss the mark.
You need power anyway, so either run ethernet or use a powerline adapter to send data along your existing electric lines - far more stable and reliable than wifi cams.
Wifi cameras are problematic for surveillance cameras because they are always streaming and passing data. And the data demands go up with motion and then you lose signal. A lost packet and it has to resend. It can bring the whole system down. At the very least it can slow down your entire system.
Unlike Netflix and other streaming services that buffer a movie, these cameras do not buffer up part of the video, so drop outs are frequent, especially once you start adding distance. You would be amazed how much streaming services buffer - don't believe me, start watching something and unplug your router and watch how much longer you can watch NetFlix before it freezes - mine goes 45 seconds. Now do the same with a camera connected to a router and it is fairly instantaneous (within the latency of the stream itself)...
We see people come here all the time and went that route and they just flat out miss the mark.
You need power anyway, so either run ethernet or use a powerline adapter to send data along your existing electric lines - far more stable and reliable than wifi cams.
Wifi cameras are problematic for surveillance cameras because they are always streaming and passing data. And the data demands go up with motion and then you lose signal. A lost packet and it has to resend. It can bring the whole system down. At the very least it can slow down your entire system.
Unlike Netflix and other streaming services that buffer a movie, these cameras do not buffer up part of the video, so drop outs are frequent, especially once you start adding distance. You would be amazed how much streaming services buffer - don't believe me, start watching something and unplug your router and watch how much longer you can watch NetFlix before it freezes - mine goes 45 seconds. Now do the same with a camera connected to a router and it is fairly instantaneous (within the latency of the stream itself)...
bigredfish
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+ 1 on wifi cameras
Having 8 of them streaming full time may bring your network to a crawl, unless you just have them work on motion only. And then you will miss a lot as the trigger time for them to activate and stream will result in you missing potentially important activity
+ 1 on wifi cameras
Having 8 of them streaming full time may bring your network to a crawl, unless you just have them work on motion only. And then you will miss a lot as the trigger time for them to activate and stream will result in you missing potentially important activity
Flintstone61
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it's easier to bring power over ethernet to an external camera, rather then trying to rig some 120 volt AC cord to an existing outlet with an extension cord.
I was thinking of having 3 poe cameras and 1 wifi doorbell camera. I wouldn't have 8 wifi cams. But I am ok not having a doorbell cam so we can skip the wifi issue. The main thing I want is to be notified on my phone when there is motion detected and get a quick preview and be able to see what is going on right away. It seems that Lorex might have some good apps for that. But I'm not 100% sure that my existing Dahua
IPC-T5442T-ZE, and IPC-T2231T-ZS cameras would work on the Lorex N881 NVR.
If Dahua or Empire Tek has good NVR notification for Android and iphones then I would probably go that route because I know the cameras would work.
Can someone point me in the right direction?
IPC-T5442T-ZE, and IPC-T2231T-ZS cameras would work on the Lorex N881 NVR.
If Dahua or Empire Tek has good NVR notification for Android and iphones then I would probably go that route because I know the cameras would work.
Can someone point me in the right direction?
Oh ok, for a doorbell you can bring that into an NVR that isn't labeled as a wifi NVR. You simply assign it an IP address and manually add the camera. The NVR doesn't know if it is wifi or not.
Lorex was made by Dahua, so the app has a lot of the same look/feel that Dahua would have (Empiretech uses Dahua apps).
Empiretech is Dahua OEM. I would just go with Empiretech NVR and be done with it.
Lorex was made by Dahua, so the app has a lot of the same look/feel that Dahua would have (Empiretech uses Dahua apps).
Empiretech is Dahua OEM. I would just go with Empiretech NVR and be done with it.
Reolink cameras don't get much love on IPCT, especially with Blue Iris, but the Reolink doorbell works very well with Blue Iris and if you log into it's webGUI and enable ONVIF, you should be able to add it to the ONVIF-compliant Empire Tech or Dahua NVR.
I have 2 Reolink doorbells, both Wi-Fi, connected via a dedicated 5GHz access point and they work great. If you absolutely cannot get a CAT-5e or 6 cable to a POE-version Reolink doorbell, then don't miss out....get a Wi-Fi version...it's a LOT better than nothing at all!
mat200
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Hi contadino
Most of the lorex branded nvrs are dahua oem.
Imho lorex nvrs when sold alone are over priced typically.
Best deals are when lorex sells it as a kit on special.
Unfortunately many lorex cameras are now sold with smaller sensors.
Typically expect some configuration when added non-lorex dahua oem cameras to a lorex dahua oem nvr. Iirc substream settings are needed to be entered. Often the rest I have read from members is plug and play, however I always plan to need to sync ip, user password settings and channel info.