Looking for Camera upgrade (IPC-HFW5442E-SE, IPC-B5442E-ZE, IPC-T5442TM-AS)

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Installed my camera system couple years ago, getting everyone from Andy (Thanks Andy) been trying to keep up with the forum and all thew new things coming out, which there is way to easily find when new replacement is out. Either way, would love some help to figure out if there is anything better out. I would love to use the boxes that are already mounted out. Here is the list of cameras that I currently have:

IPC-HFW5442E-SE
IPC-B5442E-ZE
IPC-T5442TM-AS

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The color 4k/x is the current champ but it is only fixed lens. No varifocal replacement for the 5442 yet.
 

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Oh man that is a lot of reading! reminds me of the days when I tried to be photographer :) let me go over and will post some questions. I was hoping for some general settings of 5442, as seems like people have played around with them
That post is the "gold standard" for camera settings. You should read it well and make sure understand it. Once it all "clicks" in your mind, its pretty easy.
 

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There are no common settings for any camera because each location is different. Generally, you'll want the shutter no slower than 1/60, 16.66ms, at night to reduce blur and 1/100 is even better. Keeping gain and exposure compensation as low as possible is also a key. Leaving WDR, HLC and BLC off unless absolutely necessary is another key factor. If they are required the "gain" on them needs to be a low as possible.
 

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In my opinion, shutter (exposure) and gain are the two most important and then base the others off of it. Shutter is more important than FPS. It is the shutter speed that prevents motion blur, not FPS. 15 FPS is more than enough for surveillance cameras as we are not producing Hollywood movies. Match iframes to FPS.

Many people do not realize there is manual shutter that lets you adjust shutter and gain and a shutter priority that only lets you adjust shutter speed but not gain. The higher the gain, the bigger the noise and see-through ghosting start to appear because the noise is amplified. Most people select shutter priority and run a faster shutter than they should because it is likely being done at 100 gain, so it is actually defeating their purpose of a faster shutter.

But first, run H264, smart codec off, CBR, and 8192 bitrate to start.

Go into shutter settings and change to manual shutter and start with custom shutter as ms and change to 0-8.3ms and gain 0-50 (night) and 0-30 (day)for starters. Auto could have a shutter speed of 100ms or more with a gain at 100 and shutter priority could result in gain up at 100 which will contribute to significant ghosting and that blinding white you will get from the infrared.

Now what you will notice immediately at night is that your image gets A LOT darker. That faster the shutter, the more light that is needed. But it is a balance. The nice bright night image results in Casper during motion LOL. What do we want, a nice static image or a clean image when there is motion introduced to the scene?

So if it is too dark, then start adding ms to the time. Go to 10ms, 12ms, etc. until you find what you feel is acceptable as an image. Then have someone walk around and see if you can get a clean shot. Try not to go above 16.67ms (but certainly not above 30ms) as that tends to be the point where blur starts to occur. Conversely, if it is still bright, then drop down in time to get a faster shutter.

You can also adjust brightness and contrast to improve the image.

You can also add some gain to brighten the image - but the higher the gain, the more ghosting you get. Some cameras can go to 70 or so before it is an issue and some can't go over 50.

But adjusting those two settings will have the biggest impact. The next one is noise reduction. Want to keep that as low as possible. Depending on the amount of light you have, you might be able to get down to 40 or so at night (again camera dependent) and 20-30 during the day, but take it as low as you can before it gets too noisy. Again this one is a balance as well. Too smooth and no noise can result in soft images and contribute to blur.

Do not use backlight features until you have exhausted every other parameter setting. And if you do have to use backlight, take it down as low as possible.

After every setting adjustment, have someone walk around outside and see if you can freeze-frame to get a clean image. If not, keep changing until you do. Clean motion pictures are what we are after, not a clean static image.
 
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