IR illumination questions and ideas

[scharnhorst]

First, thank you for taking the time to help me with this. Been researching how best to approach this problem for a bit now, feel i'm at least decently informed enough to to post.

My problem is i've got two outdoor cameras the cover a parking lot, a fairly big parking lot. They are hikvision 3mp bullet cameras... so far they've worked great but i've run into an unexpected problem... spiders and their damn webs. I figured being in SoCal that was going to be a a huge problem, but unfortunately i was wrong.

So after researching that problem, trying various insecticides; i've come to the conclusion that using external IR illumination probably the best way to go.

So let me see if this would work.

This is the poe switch i've got
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003CFATT2?psc=1

This looked like a decent POE splitter
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01EHMU2TA/ref=ox_sc_act_title_6?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=AMD8AOOX8JMRW

This cable to furher split the DC to power the camera and the illumination
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007Q8IKRE/ref=ox_sc_act_title_7?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1V3K7OI49CJC5

Now for the illuminator itself, it needs to be pretty powerful at least near 150 feet, and the wider the better
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00M3O5ERK/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2RH2663HNZGL
or
http://www.ltsecurityinc.com/more/ir-illuminator-ltir200r.html


Also would maybe swapping for dome cameras better as well?

Once again thank you for the advice

 

[ekaz]

Turrent cameras are the best cameras to use to avoid that kind of interference. As for IR illuminators, I don't have much experience with them, and haven't looked at them much cause where I'd want to put them, the red glow would be to obvious. The 940nm IRs suck at illumination (if your camera will even pick it up).

 

[scharnhorst]

Turrent cameras are the best cameras to use to avoid that kind of interference. As for IR illuminators, I don't have much experience with them, and haven't looked at them much cause where I'd want to put them, the red glow would be to obvious. The 940nm IRs suck at illumination (if your camera will even pick it up).

Yeah i made sure to look for the 850NM illuminators. I have one turret camera and you are right, it doesn't suffer from the spider problems.

 

[Q™]

Or you could be like Lare

 

[nayr]

for 150' your going to need something more powerfull, along these lines: http://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/biMFm9gM

and its 120vac so you dont have to do none of that PoE stuff..

this is another favorite of mine: http://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/c7TUSNZQ

I use it for reading license plates @ 150' but its focused down to a very small spotlight.

for the cameras them selves, you want LXIR cameras with one or two high powered surface mount LED's.. they dont flood the face of the camera with IR and are less attractive to spiders.. you can most often find them in turrets and bullets.

bad for bugs:

much better w/bugs:

 

[scharnhorst]

for 150' your going to need something more powerfull, along these lines: http://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/cieBk3oG

and its 120vac so you dont have to do none of that PoE stuff..

this is another favorite of mine: http://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/btw9k6eU

I use it for reading license plates @ 150' but its focused down to a very small spotlight.

for the cameras them selves, you want LXIR cameras with one or two high powered surface mount LED's.. they dont flood the face of the camera with IR and are less attractive to spiders.. you can most often find them in turrets and bullets.

bad for bugs:

much better w/bugs:

So a camera like this?
http://www.ltsecurityinc.com/ip-network-bullet-camera-cmip9152.html


or a turret like this one
http://www.ltsecurityinc.com/ip-network-turret-camera-cmp3052-28.html

 

[nayr]

yup, the high powered surface mount LED's are pretty directional.. the array of through-hole LED's are pretty much omni-directional.. the omni-directional of the through-hole LED's cause the whole face of the camera to light up like a giant bug attractant.

 

[scharnhorst]

yup, the high powered surface mount LED's are pretty directional.. the array of through-hole LED's are pretty much omni-directional.. the omni-directional of the through-hole LED's cause the whole face of the camera to light up like a giant bug attractant.

Turns out on my current bullet cameras are exir types, with the current spider problem. That means I can try upgrading to some turret cameras and see if that helps, try to do the external IR solution (since i can't run another wire, and this is at the roof a decent size building i'd love not to have to throw extra cables and splitters around), or combination of turrets with some spider repellent solutions.

I've got one 3mp hik turrent camera setup there and surprisingly haven't had any spider problems with that one; so i think i'll give it a shot first.

 

[scharnhorst]

for 150' your going to need something more powerfull, along these lines: http://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/bkaYunEC

and its 120vac so you dont have to do none of that PoE stuff..

this is another favorite of mine: http://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/qJEw544

I use it for reading license plates @ 150' but its focused down to a very small spotlight.

for the cameras them selves, you want LXIR cameras with one or two high powered surface mount LED's.. they dont flood the face of the camera with IR and are less attractive to spiders.. you can most often find them in turrets and bullets.

The problem is i don't want to run a power cable up to the top of this building. Hell running another cat6 cable could be insane.

As i'm doing more research on splitters, another problem i see is that most of these IR illuminators are wanting 12v 2amps. POE splinters seem to be 12v 1amp.... i'd imagine I wouldn't get the best brightness, and probably burn them out faster.


Although this is on the expensive side, anyone experienced with these
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1058352-REG/axton_12ne2870_orion_s_e_70_deg_850nm_poe.html