Hello all.
I'm going to list quite a bit of information in the hope someone can help me, so I will try format it for easy digestion. Ultimately though, I just want the answer to my questions so I placed them first and the info after that is supplementary and may be skipped if its too long.
Question:
How do you get intrusion detection to work and is it possible with my hardware listed? I have managed to get motion detection working, advanced motion detection, but not intrusion detection or line crossing (I believe these are called VCA?).
Things I have tried/checked:
On the IP camera I have checked (via web interface) that
Physically at the NVR I checked that
Threshold 1s
Sensitivity 100
Percentage 1
I also drew a smaller box because there is a little conjecture on if the % setting is how much percentage of an object encroaches into your box or how much of the box is taken up by an object (so size of object). Originally I had a large box, so 1% could have been quite a large object if it was the later. So by making the box smaller and placing it in an area that I know I would be using to test I would effectively make sure I was greater than 1% of the box.
Hardware/Software:
NVR
DS-7616N-E2/8P v3.3.4 Build 150616
IPC
3 x DS-2CD3145F-IS v5.3.3 Build 150624
1 x DS-2CD3145F-I
Note: After ordering my first NVR c/w PoE ports I switched to a PoE switch so I could access the cameras directly without getting up and down and fiddling with cables every time I wanted to try something different. If I had my time again I would not bother with a PoE model.
Design Intent:
My desire was to monitor the front side of my house, driveway, and front door via the 3 under eve dome cameras (Would also choose turret over dome in future) with the bullet camera purchased to pole mount in the swimming pool area to allow my wife to set the kids loose out the back while she works inside, and keep an eye on things in the pool area via a tablet. Ultimately, if I can get the intrusion detection working with MOST false positives eliminated I could set up alarming. The kids are too young to be in the pool area so it is to monitor that they have not circumvented the child proofing.
The 3 dome cameras were to record on events. I am not a fan of the constant record.
Issues pushing me to Intrusion Detection:
I had it working very sweetly, with most false negatives eliminated by using the Expert motion detection. However, while I was away working (I am away for 2 week stints) we lost power. After it came back on my wife informed me that they were no longer recording. She accesses the recordings and live feed via her android phone or tablet. Very nice to have when the man of the house is away.
Well you guessed it. Been running fine for about 8 months with no issues. The ONE TIME it stops, someone came onto my property and stole a 4x4 battery that I had left out the front (warped plates/stuffed). It was not worth much, maybe $50 but it's the principal!
So the reason I would like to get intrusion detection running is there is a bug with my NVR/IPC's that I can not resolve. When the IPC comes onto the network, the NVR picks it up and forces it BACK into "Normal" mode rather than keeping it in "Expert". I have powered it down/up with the NVR off line and it holds itself in Expert but as soon as you put the NVR back online and it picks up the camera it logs in and resets that flag. It only requires me to change it back as it keeps the other settings. So its just one drop down menu and a save button on each camera but I shouldn't have to do that. I am hoping that Intrusion Detection is a side step around that which also may enable me to eliminate even more false positives.
I also tried making a user other than Admin on the camera and assigning that login to the camera on the NVR and restricting what it can/can't do. I was hoping that would prevent the NVR from having he permission to change camera settings. This failed also as the NVR then refused to record events. I am also unable to remove "remote configuration changes" from the admin privileges.
If you're still with me so far, I commend you. I do babble a bit I am sorry. Any information on how to get Intrusion detection running would be greatly appreciated, or if anyone has any info on how to solve the NVR changing camera config setting would also be appreciated.
Regards,
PerthMan
I'm going to list quite a bit of information in the hope someone can help me, so I will try format it for easy digestion. Ultimately though, I just want the answer to my questions so I placed them first and the info after that is supplementary and may be skipped if its too long.
Question:
How do you get intrusion detection to work and is it possible with my hardware listed? I have managed to get motion detection working, advanced motion detection, but not intrusion detection or line crossing (I believe these are called VCA?).
Things I have tried/checked:
On the IP camera I have checked (via web interface) that
- Config->Smart Event->Enable intrusion detection check box is selected.
- I have checked that the "Arming Schedule" period 1 start time 00:00 end time 24:00 on all days
- Notify Survalence centre is selected
- Config->Storage->Record Schedule Enable recorded schedule check box is checked
- Hit edit on the schedule planner thing and "All day" is selected and "All events". period 1 start time 00:00 end time 24:00 on all days as well.
- Config->Smart Event->Intrusion Detection->Enable intrusion detection check box is selected.
- Alarm Schedule is 00:00 to 24:00 on every day of the week
- Linkage method->Notify Survalence center selected.
Physically at the NVR I checked that
- Menu->Record->Schedule check box enabled and is set to M|A (motion OR alarm)
- Menu->Camera->VCA->Intrusion Detection check box enabled, and the drawn area is the same.
Threshold 1s
Sensitivity 100
Percentage 1
I also drew a smaller box because there is a little conjecture on if the % setting is how much percentage of an object encroaches into your box or how much of the box is taken up by an object (so size of object). Originally I had a large box, so 1% could have been quite a large object if it was the later. So by making the box smaller and placing it in an area that I know I would be using to test I would effectively make sure I was greater than 1% of the box.
Hardware/Software:
NVR
DS-7616N-E2/8P v3.3.4 Build 150616
IPC
3 x DS-2CD3145F-IS v5.3.3 Build 150624
1 x DS-2CD3145F-I
Note: After ordering my first NVR c/w PoE ports I switched to a PoE switch so I could access the cameras directly without getting up and down and fiddling with cables every time I wanted to try something different. If I had my time again I would not bother with a PoE model.
Design Intent:
My desire was to monitor the front side of my house, driveway, and front door via the 3 under eve dome cameras (Would also choose turret over dome in future) with the bullet camera purchased to pole mount in the swimming pool area to allow my wife to set the kids loose out the back while she works inside, and keep an eye on things in the pool area via a tablet. Ultimately, if I can get the intrusion detection working with MOST false positives eliminated I could set up alarming. The kids are too young to be in the pool area so it is to monitor that they have not circumvented the child proofing.
The 3 dome cameras were to record on events. I am not a fan of the constant record.
Issues pushing me to Intrusion Detection:
I had it working very sweetly, with most false negatives eliminated by using the Expert motion detection. However, while I was away working (I am away for 2 week stints) we lost power. After it came back on my wife informed me that they were no longer recording. She accesses the recordings and live feed via her android phone or tablet. Very nice to have when the man of the house is away.
Well you guessed it. Been running fine for about 8 months with no issues. The ONE TIME it stops, someone came onto my property and stole a 4x4 battery that I had left out the front (warped plates/stuffed). It was not worth much, maybe $50 but it's the principal!
So the reason I would like to get intrusion detection running is there is a bug with my NVR/IPC's that I can not resolve. When the IPC comes onto the network, the NVR picks it up and forces it BACK into "Normal" mode rather than keeping it in "Expert". I have powered it down/up with the NVR off line and it holds itself in Expert but as soon as you put the NVR back online and it picks up the camera it logs in and resets that flag. It only requires me to change it back as it keeps the other settings. So its just one drop down menu and a save button on each camera but I shouldn't have to do that. I am hoping that Intrusion Detection is a side step around that which also may enable me to eliminate even more false positives.
I also tried making a user other than Admin on the camera and assigning that login to the camera on the NVR and restricting what it can/can't do. I was hoping that would prevent the NVR from having he permission to change camera settings. This failed also as the NVR then refused to record events. I am also unable to remove "remote configuration changes" from the admin privileges.
If you're still with me so far, I commend you. I do babble a bit I am sorry. Any information on how to get Intrusion detection running would be greatly appreciated, or if anyone has any info on how to solve the NVR changing camera config setting would also be appreciated.
Regards,
PerthMan
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