Hikvision compared to the competition.

[rockycmt]

First I love my hikvision and QNAP nas setup. All the apps do exactly what i want. And I want to own my own IP cameras and not rely on 3rd parties to be my access point. I have recently bought a WYSE camera for a remote application.
1- it is cheap
2- is used in a garage when not at home.

I was astonished by how nice the image is. I did a side by side with an extra hikvision camera I had. This Wyse camera has an amazing clarity and night vision. Now my Hiks are 8 years old. So there has to be the better version out there. What is everyone using these days to replace their legacy hikvisions? I would expect that there has to be a superior IP camera now that is comparable to these off the shelf big box store units.

 

[ludshed]

For what you’re describing of a small garage anything will look great. Distance, motion speed and dark conditions, especially at distance is what separates the professional vs the play school. Even the big boys; speco, dahua, hik, Turing, have “value” lines.

 

[rockycmt]

Not sure i agree. These were side by side images. I do not want to post images of my private space here. But it was clear that the night vision of the wyse was superior. I was also able to pick up the license plate of my car easily from the wyse. not so much from my hik. I tried with nigh vision on and off on the hik.

So are you saying the old 4mp hiks are still superior to any of these box store units?

If yes, maybe you have some settings you can share to improve the image quality.
if No, I suspect many have moved on from the hiks to something new. Maybe newer models?

 

[sebastiantombs]

Let's see, you're comparing 8 year old technology to recent technology. Sounds like comparing a flip phone to an S21.

Look around here. Start with the Wiki in the blue bar at the top of the page. Lots of good information there. Then check the Hikvision and Dahua areas for recent reviews. Technology has improved just a tiny bit in the past 8 years.

 

[wittaj]

Big Box store cameras are designed around providing nice bright static images with very little or no ability for the user to modify settings to improve video during motion.

Because of this, in almost every situation, an out of the box consumer camera will look better with a static image than a better camera right out of the box. They are both catering different audiences and the expectations are different as well.

The Hiks and Dahua of the camera world require the user to actually spend the time to dial in the camera settings for their field of view and available light if you want to get the best performance possible.

Does that mean many run prosumer cameras on default - yes - but then they are not taking advantage of the capabilities of the camera.

But we care about how a camera performs with motion at night or when it is in dark locations. A nice bright static image that results in motion blur when a perp comes by is useless other than knowing what time someone came by. And that is where the big box store cameras fail....

The Typical picture of a Perp on Nextdoor-type Apps with Consumer Grade Cameras like Ring, Nest, Arlo, Canary, Wyze, etc.

Love these posts on Nextdoor type apps LOL. This thread will be used for members to post the poor quality consumer grade type camera images that we see people post to the Nextdoor type apps. Can anyone make out this person that went thru their cars LOL.... And this thread is where members...

ipcamtalk.com

 

[rockycmt]

Let's see, you're comparing 8 year old technology to recent technology. Sounds like comparing a flip phone to an S21.

Look around here. Start with the Wiki in the blue bar at the top of the page. Lots of good information there. Then check the Hikvision and Dahua areas for recent reviews. Technology has improved just a tiny bit in the past 8 years.

I agree. These are very different generations. Why I stated it up front. I am just asking what others are using these days. I will look to further dial it in. I am still very impressed with an off the shelf camera with no configuration.

 

[Mike A.]

The Wyze cams are OK indoors where they have some light or IR bounce. I have several as fill-in cams that I picked up cheap and reasonably satisfied with them for that purpose. Get them out in a very dark area and complex scene with motion and they'll start to show their weakness quickly. If you want to simulate the Wyze on the HiKvision just turn the shutter speed real slow, gain and exposure high, noise reduction way up, and you'll have a reasonable approximation. Though the V3s do have a better/later Starviz sensor which probably will be better than that in the older cam. Pretty much any of the newer cams with better sensors/ratio will be better overall for practical purposes.

Bunch of other issues with the Wyze as far as needing to be connected to the Internet in order to stay up, no ability to change settings, etc. But as a cheap little cam for certain purposes they do OK. Not something that I'd want to rely on much.

 

[Flintstone61]

You don't have to get crazy for just a garage camera....but yeah, I just updated my Costco -Nightowl 5MP DVr garage cam to an Amcrest 5MP IP cam and it's worlds apart in clarity...5mp and 5mp lemme find some images.
I'm not well versed in Hik product models...but you'll find something.
I got the Amcrest for $47 on Amazon we have Wyze cam in there as well, that my Gf thinks she neeeds to check the garage door from work...She bought it her nephew installed it...I just love how it bogs down the wifi
no Image to share. I didn't bother loading the Wyze app. I have BI,,,,
it was all part of conversion from DVR to NVR/Ip cams

 

[wittaj]

The Wyze cams are OK indoors where they have some light or IR bounce. I have several as fill-in cams that I picked up cheap and reasonably satisfied with them for that purpose. Get them out in a very dark area and complex scene with motion and they'll start to show their weakness quickly. If you want to simulate the Wyze on the HiKvision just turn the shutter speed real slow, gain and exposure high, noise reduction way up, and you'll have a reasonable approximation. Though the V3s do have a better/later Starviz sensor which probably will be better than that in the older cam. Pretty much any of the newer cams with better sensors/ratio will be better overall for practical purposes.

Bunch of other issues with the Wyze as far as needing to be connected to the Internet in order to stay up, no ability to change settings, etc. But as a cheap little cam for certain purposes they do OK. Not something that I'd want to rely on much.

Best sentence ever LOL. But it is exactly what the consumer grade cameras do!

 

[Flintstone61]

I have a really bad taste in my mouth for anything HIk after my immersion into the Cam world was with a Nightowl big box system from Costco, the Model number and the motherboard and camera part # nomeclatures follow the HIK #'s

I'm sure there is good Hikvision stuff out there, I just got the bottom of the "value" line shit for my opening Salvo,,,,then I found these crazy bastards in here....and they got me going in the right direction.

 

[mat200]

First I love my hikvision and QNAP nas setup. All the apps do exactly what i want. And I want to own my own IP cameras and not rely on 3rd parties to be my access point. I have recently bought a WYSE camera for a remote application.
1- it is cheap
2- is used in a garage when not at home.

I was astonished by how nice the image is. I did a side by side with an extra hikvision camera I had. This Wyse camera has an amazing clarity and night vision. Now my Hiks are 8 years old. So there has to be the better version out there. What is everyone using these days to replace their legacy hikvisions? I would expect that there has to be a superior IP camera now that is comparable to these off the shelf big box store units.

Hi @rockycmt

look for newer Hikvision or Dahua OEM cameras which have larger sensors for the best results in low light ..

right now in terms of value, many like the 4MP 1/1.8" sensor models ..