help with IP Camera models

[kearkg]

3.6 in most cases. Especially at your doorways. You do have cameras planned for your doorways right?

these are upclose pic of my doorways. do you recommend the 3449 Pro for all of them ?

 

[kearkg]

You’ll have to look at direction and angle. Maybe. Generally you don’t want more than 30 degree angle. So think in terms of the target area being 50-100 ft from the camera to get a reasonably straight shot.

The Z12 is the go to camera for this. Andy will know what that is.

And you’ll need 2, one for each direction, they don’t move

this is the view from the spot where i'd put the LPR camera looking in both directions, except they'd be higher at 2.5M

 

[bigredfish]

these are upclose pic of my doorways. do you recommend the 3449 Pro for all of them ?

Actually yes. Though there are new models coming out that may be slightly better, but I doubt you'll see a huge difference.

 

[bigredfish]

this is the view from the spot where i'd put the LPR camera looking in both directions, except they'd be higher at 2.5M

Some of those little tree's may have to magically disappear in the middle of the night but yeah looks close

 

[kearkg]

Some of those little tree's may have to magically disappear in the middle of the night but yeah looks close

didn't even think of that - but yes they can definitely disappear!

this is where i've ended up with the system so far....all using empiretechs gear.

4 x doorways = 4 x 3449 Pro.
Garage / Driveway = 1 x 5442 varifocal (not sure what exactly i need if i go fixed lens)
Other general locations at corners of the house - 2 x 5442 varifocal (not sure what exactly i need if i go fixed lens)
1 x mini PTZ under eave on first floor
2 x Z12 for LPR purpose only
16 channel NVR
2 x 8TB hard drives

some qs i have are:

should I get the 3.6mm lens option with the 3449 pro ?

are there any additional mounting accessories I need? most of the cams are going straight onto brick except for ptz which will be under eave.

just to confirm I've got the right cameras.

3449 Pro is this one:

EmpireTech IPC-Color4M-T 1/1.8" CMOS 4MP Smart Dual Light Active Deter

4MP 1/1.8" CMOS Built-in multi-core light, Max. IR distance is 30 m, Max. warm light distance is 30 m Intelligent monitoring: Intrusion, Tripwire Supports max. 512 G Micro SD card Built-in dual Mic Support two-way talk IP67 protection Sound and light alarm (red and blue lights) SMD 4.0

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z12 is this one:

EmpireTech IPC-B52IR-Z12E-S2 1/2.8" CMOS 2MP 5mm–60mm Ultra Low Light

2MP 1/2.8" CMOS image sensor Built-in IR LED, the max. illumination distance is 150 m Deep learning algorithm Built-in MIC IP67 and IK10 protection SMD 3.0

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mini PTZ is this one:

EmpireTech PTZ425DB-AT 1/2.8"CMOS 4MP 25x Starlight IR 5mm–125mm Vari-

4MP, 1/2.8" CMOS 25x optical zoom Starlight technology Max. 25/30fps@4MP IR distance up to 100 m Auto-tracking 1.0 Perimeter protection Face detection SMD 3.0 IP66

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16CH NVR is this one:

EmpireTech NVR16CH-16P-2AI 16 Channels 1U 16PoE 2HDD Network Video Rec

Multiple decoding formats Support AcuPick with Max. 16-Channel Support N+M cluster AI by recorder AI by camera Security baseline 2.3

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5442 varifocal is this one:

EmpireTech IPC-T54IR-ZE-S3 1/1.8" CMOS 4MP IR Starlight 2.7mm–12mm Var

4-MP 1/1.8" CMOS image sensor, low luminance, and high definition image. Outputs max. 4MP (2688×1520) @25/30 fps. Built-in IR LED, and the max. illumination distance is 40 m. ROI, SVC, AI H.264/H.265, encoding after filter, flexible coding, applicable to various bandwidth and storage...

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5442 fixed is this one:

EmpireTech IPC-T54IR-AS-S3 1/1.8" CMOS 4MP IR Fixed-focal Turret Netwo

4MP 1/1.8" CMOS image sensor Built-in IR LED, Max. illumination distance is 50 m Deep learning algorithm Supports max. 512 GB Micro SD card Built-in MIC IP67 protection SMD 3.0

empiretech01.com

 

[bigredfish]

I think you’re good to start.

I prefer 3.6mm at doors

Most all of those have a junction box you can /should purchase. Andy knows which ones

You’ll need 2 Z-12’s for LPR both ways

 

[bigredfish]

The only consideration would be stepping up on the NVR the next level but it’s another $250

The advantage is more bandwidth and the ability to run VMD on the recorder while your cameras run IVS. So if money isn’t an issue I’d do that. If budget is stretched don’t worry about it. 90% of folks probably would say it’s not worth it.

@steve1225 your opinion on the upgrade NVR?

EmpireTech NVR16CH-16P-2XI 16CH 1U 16POE 2HDDs Network Video Recorder

Max. decoding capability: 32 × 1080p@30 fps Max. 512/512/512 Mbps incoming/recording/outgoing bandwidth Supports IP cameras with a resolution of up to 32 MP Supports AcuPick with up to 16 channels AI by Recorder AI by Camera Supports N+M cluster, ISCSI Supports EPTZ, and one-click arming and...

empiretech01.com

 

[steve1225]

The only consideration would be stepping up on the NVR the next level but it’s another $250

The advantage is more bandwidth and the ability to run VMD on the recorder while your cameras run IVS. So if money isn’t an issue I’d do that. If budget is stretched don’t worry about it. 90% of folks probably would say it’s not worth it.

@steve1225 your opinion on the upgrade NVR?

EmpireTech NVR16CH-16P-2XI 16CH 1U 16POE 2HDDs Network Video Recorder

Max. decoding capability: 32 × 1080p@30 fps Max. 512/512/512 Mbps incoming/recording/outgoing bandwidth Supports IP cameras with a resolution of up to 32 MP Supports AcuPick with up to 16 channels AI by Recorder AI by Camera Supports N+M cluster, ISCSI Supports EPTZ, and one-click arming and...

empiretech01.com

At this moment, when Dahua is doing more and more AI features which work only in Dahua ecosystem (cameras + NVR + DMSS app), considering other options than Dahua NVR for small house installations is becoming increasingly pointless.

Especially since we're seeing progress with the mobile app (DMSS) - they've started making something sensible with it.
And from what I'm hearing from internal sources in Dahua Poland, there will be much more of it.

ps. buying NVR smaller than for 16 channels (cameras) is pointless. Very fast there will be need to upgrade it in any serious usage.

 

[kearkg]

I think you’re good to start.

I prefer 3.6mm at doors

Most all of those have a junction box you can /should purchase. Andy knows which ones

You’ll need 2 Z-12’s for LPR both ways

I heard that turret cameras don’t require the mounting junction box. They can be mounted on walls and eaves and look much neater on a house that way. But I’m unsure how true this is ?

Also, any issue if say I start with just 1 x Z12 and just capture plates in one direction and add the second one at a later stage?

 

[bigredfish]

True

Sure. I’m just saying if you want both directions it will take 2

 

[kearkg]

I think you’re good to start.

I prefer 3.6mm at doors

Most all of those have a junction box you can /should purchase. Andy knows which ones

You’ll need 2 Z-12’s for LPR both ways

Can I just use a 3449 pro 3.6mm at the garage/driveway as well? It’s a few bucks cheaper than a 5442 varifocal.

 

[bigredfish]

I would stay with the 5442 VF. You dont really know what focus point you need exactly