Yeah, that's how I use push too. I gotta be realistic and install what I have and pretend I never laid eyes on a starlight. In all the forums in all the world, you had to post that.... I'll replace them all over time I suppose, and maybe even better ones will come out. I could get three of them for starters on the chokes but three greats only makes the other five look like shit. Better to have an even playing field of shit or great, lol. But a big improvement since I'm up'ing from analog, anyway. Plus I want to keep a budget for the 25x ptz starlight if that can be done.