Annke c1200, any good?

[spanx]

Hi,

I have a couple of Annke C800 (old model) bullitstyle ip cams. At the moment I'm looking voor an upgrade. Annke has the c1200 and I am wondering if it's also a Hikvision model just like the old c800.

I flashed the old model c800 with the hikvision one but I can't find if the c1200 is flashable and wich hikvision model it is....

Can anyone help me? It's the best bang for buck at €70 and 12mp

 

[mat200]

Hi,

I have a couple of Annke C800 (old model) bullitstyle ip cams. At the moment I'm looking voor an upgrade. Annke has the c1200 and I am wondering if it's also a Hikvision model just like the old c800.

I flashed the old model c800 with the hikvision one but I can't find if the c1200 is flashable and wich hikvision model it is....

Can anyone help me? It's the best bang for buck at €70 and 12mp

Hi @spanx

What are the Annke C1200 specs ?

 

[looney2ns]

The best all around camera is this: EmpireTech IPC-T54IR-ZE-S3 1/1.8" CMOS 4MP IR Starlight Vari-focal Tur
You can email directly for delivery to your location.
That 12mp Annke, will be terrible after dark, unless you have LOTs of light.

 

[spanx]

4mp is too low quality and I need a bullit cam....

I have lots of light and 70€ is my budget

 

[mat200]

4mp is too low quality and I need a bullit cam....

I have lots of light and 70€ is my budget

Hi @spanx .. so ..

What are the Annke C1200 specs ?

 

[spanx]

C1200 - 4K 12MP PoE Überwachungskamera aussen, Farbe & IR Nachtsicht, Erkennung von Menschen & Fahrzeugen, H.265+, Eingebautes Mikrofon, Max. 512 GB lokaler Speicher, IP67

ANNKE C1200 Erleben Sie 12MP Klarheit wie nie zuvor 12MP Ultra HD4096 X 3072 Dual Light IR-NachtsichtWeißes Licht 2.8 MM Mehr abdeckenErfassen Sie alle Details IP67 WetterfestGroße Anpassungsfähigkeit 12MP Visuelles Erlebnis: Detailliertere Bilder Modernste 12MP Sicherheitskamera, liefert...

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[wittaj]

HA - 12MP on a 1/2.7" sensor that is designed for 2MP will mean it needs 6 times more light at night to produce the same brightness as the 2MP on the same size sensor. My 2MP will kick its butt all night long.

That is a budget camera. You get what you pay for.

Chase sensor size not MP.

You want a camera on the ideal MP/sensor ratio:



The camera Looney posted is available in bullet.

Most have found that 4MP is more than sufficient for surveillance cameras.

The cheapest highest MP on the ideal MP/sensor ratio is this one at 8MP on the 1/1.2" sensor:

EmpireTech IPC-Color4K-X 8MP 1/1.2” CMOS Full-color Fixed-focal Warm L

· 8MP, 1/1.2” CMOS image sensor, low illuminance, high definition image · Outputs max. 8MP (3840 × 2160) @25/30 fps · Built-in warm illuminator, and the max. illumination distance is 40 m · ROI, SMART H.264+/H.265+, flexible coding, applicable to various bandwidth and storage environments ·...

empiretech01.com

Chase sensor size and focal length, not MP

The Importance of Focal Length over MP in camera selection

At the urging of several folks here, I created a thread to show the importance of focal length and how focal length can be more important than megapixels (MP). I mentioned some of this in the post regarding The Hookup’s latest video demonstrating different cameras, including one sold from a...

ipcamtalk.com

 

[spanx]

Thanks for the info. My use case is different, I need 4k pixels and have enough light. Very good lighting conditions.

Close up is not the problem but I am aiming also some objects in the background that needs to have as much resolution as can.

 

[mat200]

Thanks for the info. My use case is different, I need 4k pixels and have enough light. Very good lighting conditions.

Close up is not the problem but I am aiming also some objects in the background that needs to have as much resolution as can.

Hi @spanx

We would need to know more about your use case .. objects, distance of camera to the object, .. and so forth.

In general, more megapixels and smaller sensors are not at good in low light conditions, which is an important consideration for most of the security camera needs for many of us.

A cheap high megapixel camera may not meet the performance requirements for many of us.

Probably best to buy it and try it out for your situation.


note:
12MP on a 1/2.7" sensor ..

 

[wittaj]

Just remember these cameras are not like the digital zoom on TV.

You can get away with a little in ideal conditions, but not much.

Here was a thread of a person complaining that the 8MP didn't look that much better than the 3MP camera on a still shot in bright sunlight when digital zoomed.

Maybe your use case really can get away with it with inferior MP/sensor combinations, but nobody here would choose that camera for mission critical IDENTIFY type applications.

8mp vs 3mp image comparison

hello, I have an 8mp 1/1.8" sensor PCI-T18F2S on the top and 3mp 1/3" sensor DS-2CD2132F-IS on the bottom. Both cameras are 2.8mm and the cereal box is at 15 feet in both cases. I would expect a much better image from the 8mp. What do you think? I'm sure you would like to have a lot more...

ipcamtalk.com

 

[spanx]

The camera is aimed at my driveway and front door. But the current camera also captures (a bit) of the parking lot across my house. That parking lot is well lit but the current c800 is not sharp enough to make out the license plate when driving by. Of course only in negative situations would I need to review the license plates for the police.

 

[mat200]

The camera is aimed at my driveway and front door. But the current camera also captures (a bit) of the parking lot across my house. That parking lot is well lit but the current c800 is not sharp enough to make out the license plate when driving by. Of course only in negative situations would I need to review the license plates for the police.

Hi @spanx

Please see the DORI section of the cliff notes ..

for license plates iirc you need about 60 ppf ( pixel per foot ) and close to a straight on image capture to be able to read a plate during the day .. see the ID distance equation, and use 60 instead of 100 ppf .. note, you can convert it to metric also ..

 

[PHILka.RU]

The picture at night is good on this camera. It's hard for a phone to increase 12 mp in hik-connect better take a closer look at the AN-I91DB0102 camera, it has a good price now