A reason to add one more camera

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I already have 7 cameras but this just happened in our neighborhood. I have pondered getting a cam for LPR but when I saw this at a neighbor's house I ordered a cam for LPR from Andy. When I started out I could never have imagined having 8 cameras. These bastards were really determined to break in this door:

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Check out this video! I just captured it with my Ring Camera!
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Interesting how the door never broke open. The entire wall caved. Did they get anything or did they run when she screamed? She should have been screaming and be ready to shoot once the wall caved in.

Also notice, caps, masks, and gloves. The crappy Ring cam is so blurry on any movement.
 
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samplenhold said:
She should have been screaming and be ready to shoot once the wall caved in.
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Yes, I would have liked to have been there behind the door waiting with my friends Smith&Wesson.
 
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JNDATHP said:
We have these for our man doors:

www.armorconcepts.com

Door Armor Max Combo Set

Ultimate door security and kick-in protection. Comes complete with 1 Door Armor Jamb Shield, 2 Mini Door Shields, 2 Hinge Shields and 17 3-1/2-inch self-tapping screws. $500 Lifetime Guarantee. Installation time: about 30 minutes. Save $5 each when you purchase 2 or more (of the same color) or...
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That looks interesting.
 
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I don't know your laws but I would have thought that as soon as it became apparent it wasn't law enforcement and they were in the act of kicking the door in, it became a home invasion and defendable. Subject to lawful authority to do so, I would have shot the guy in red through the glass panel, not waited for the door to actually cave.
 
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It’s dicey. Castle Doctrine would probably cover you in this particular case, but I’d advise waiting until the door gives way and he’s got 1 foot inside to be safe.

* Note I am referring to Florida. Be sure and know your state laws.
 
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CCTVCam said:
I don't know your laws but I would have thought that as soon as it became apparent it wasn't law enforcement and they were in the act of kicking the door in, it became a home invasion and defendable. Subject to lawful authority to do so, I would have shot the guy in red through the glass panel, not waited for the door to actually cave.
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In our state, Nevada, home invasion requires forcible entry. Until they enter it is a property crime. Once they enter, then both my wife and I will shoot to stop the threat.
 
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JNDATHP said:
We have these for our man doors:
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That would not help in this case. The lock never failed, the jamb never failed. The whole door/wall unit came down.

Shooting someone through an exterior door is never a good idea. You can't get a good sight picture, can't see what is behind them, and you might miss.

Back in the 90's, a guy that I worked with shot a guy through his door and killed him. There had been numerous kick-door home invasions in the area for weeks. This guy and his friend were drunk and thought someone was after them and started pounding on his front door. When he went to the door, the guys had hid as the car they were trying to avoid came by. One of them then hopped the fence and went to the back yard and banged on the back door. My friend shot him through the door thinking he was trying to get in. His wife had already called the police. You can imagine the confusion, being woken up, pounding at the front door, catching a glimpse of some guy hopping the fence to your backyard, banging on the back door. While he was never charged with a crime, he had large legal bills, media attention, and was then sued by the guy's family.
 
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Yeah that can be bad, being legally in the right shooting someone and then the family files a civil suit and you spend all your money on lawyers. So here I am adding a cam for LPR and then the car might have been stolen so license plates may not be as helpful as hoped for, but I gotta try.
 
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g-shock alarms on the door might of helped set off out door lights/siren. I believe my Schlage Connect smart door has g-shock sensor (kicking of door, sensor). I have not yet integrated into Home Assistant yet but when I do, it will set off alarms or notifications or my wifi sprinkler system (one zone will be directed at front door), etc.
Wish it would automatically fly my DJI drone to follow or buzz around...that would be cool :)
 
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Yea...I'm thinking along the lines of outdoor / indoor lights blinking on/off. Unsure of a siren in the case of false alarms. But for sure, the 1 zone sprinkler aimed at front door :)
For deadly/fatal solutions, yes...I gots my Mossberg 500. Won't be thinking of lawyers in such a moment like the above video.
 
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This is another example of why I like perimeter alarms. I would have known they were there when they hit the driveway or any of a number of possible entry points. I like the idea of getting the most prep time as possible, hell I may even have time to put on my EarPro.
 
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I purchased 4 Bosch PIR's for inside of the house to hook up to my DSC alarm system. I did purchase a single outdoor Bosch PIR, have yet to actually install it. Keeping track of false alarms for inside PIR's and other alarm stuff before hooking up external alarm notifications. The outdoor PIR has a red LED, unlike the interior PIR's which have a blue LED. Should hook it up soon and put outside to see how effective it is. Dang thing was like $90. 3 times more spendier than the inside ones. I will say this: the Bosch PIR blue LED ones have had 0 false alarms in nearly 3 months. Impressive.
 
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