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Panama was King George 1st Bush's bank from his drug sales into the US via Air America.
The drugs came into a base outside Tuscon (Pinal County Airport) AZ.
Seems Noriega wanted a bigger cut of the profits.
 
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I still don’t know what to think about all of this...

1: I do know that Ukraine is as corrupt as it gets, hence why the Biden’s have a huge interest there.

2: From my understanding, there is a part of Ukraine that wants to be a part of Russia.

3: I do know that there is a part of Ukraine that wants no part of Russia.

4: I do know that Ukraine has a vast amount or resources. I spent time on Google Earth looking at the landscape. They have a immense amount of farm land. They have a immense amount of livestock. Which would be very beneficial to Putin.

5: Besides the Ag industry which is obvious from google earth, I guarantee there are other resources there that would be beneficial to Putin.

#6 and the biggest thing I am seeing. Is that Putin has the best interest in one thing. To benefit his country. I just wish our potato salad and his handlers had the best interest in their country in mind.


Sure, the world is sanctioning Russia right now, which I am sure is hurting the country. But look at the price of oil. It is going through the roof. What Russia is loosing with their “sanctions” they are making bank on by the price of oil.

If potato salad and his handlers really cared about this country they’d open the flood gates of our oil and tank the oil market. That and that only will bring Russia to its knees.
 
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rolibr24 said:
I still don’t know what to think about all of this...

1: I do know that Ukraine is as corrupt as it gets, hence why the Biden’s have a huge interest there.

2: From my understanding, there is a part of Ukraine that wants to be a part of Russia.

3: I do know that there is a part of Ukraine that wants no part of Russia.

4: I do know that Ukraine has a vast amount or resources. I spent time on Google Earth looking at the landscape. They have a immense amount of farm land. They have a immense amount of livestock. Which would be very beneficial to Putin.

5: Besides the Ag industry which is obvious from google earth, I guarantee there are other resources there that would be beneficial to Putin.

#6 and the biggest thing I am seeing. Is that Putin has the best interest in one thing. To benefit his country. I just wish our potato salad and his handlers had the best interest in their country in mind.


Sure, the world is sanctioning Russia right now, which I am sure is hurting the country. But look at the price of oil. It is going through the roof. What Russia is loosing with their “sanctions” they are making bank on by the price of oil.

If potato salad and his handlers really cared about this country they’d open the flood gates of our oil and tank the oil market. That and that only will bring Russia to its knees.
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Executive summary: Ukraine ..

start here:

www.visualcapitalist.com

Map Explainer: Key Facts About Ukraine

Ukraine has made the headlines due to the ongoing tensions with Russia. In this map infographic, we examine Ukraine from a structural point of view.
www.visualcapitalist.com www.visualcapitalist.com
 
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sebastiantombs said:
What I am saying though, is that if there's a better place, name it or go there.
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And the point I'm trying to make is what moral right does the USA have to denounce Russia meddling with another country when the USA does it on what looks like a considerably larger scale? If we want to denounce others for something we should first quit doing it ourselves. It reminds me of how the democrats accuse others of all the sleazy things they are doing.
 
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I can ask the same question for Putin. What moral right does he have to attack another country? It's a chess game and one where choices have to be made. Ukraine was given guarantees, by both Russia and the US when they gave up the nuclear weapons that were located there. Putin has run that agreement through the shredder. Does that mean we should as well? I don't know, but I do know I'd prefer Ukraine remain an independent nation, aligned with the "West" rather than a puppet of Putin.

If you're looking for moral purity, you'll never find it in foreign relations or politics.
 
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In the fake news media I'm reading about the possibility of NATO establishing a no-fly zone over Ukraine, and Ukraine asking for expedited EU membership, with support from some of the EU leaders. If either of those happen, I think the USA is at war with Russia, whether declared or not. Is that flawed thinking?
 
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tigerwillow1 said:
And the point I'm trying to make is what moral right does the USA have to denounce Russia meddling with another country when the USA does it on what looks like a considerably larger scale? If we want to denounce others for something we should first quit doing it ourselves. It reminds me of how the democrats accuse others of all the sleazy things they are doing.
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As @sebastiantombs noted..

Ukraine used to be very bad-assed in terms of nukes ..

Ukraine is a very special case .. because at one time it was in the top 3 of nuclear powers ..


"Ukraine Special Weapons
After the disintegration of the USSR, Ukraine found itself in possession of the world's third largest nuclear arsenal. There were 176 intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) launchers with some 1,240 warheads on Ukrainian territory. This force consisted of 130 SS-19s, each capable of delivering six nuclear weapons, and 46 SS-24s, each armed with ten nuclear weapons. An additional 14 SS-24 missiles were present in Ukraine, but not operationally deployed with warheads. Several dozen bombers with strategic nuclear capabilities were armed with some 600 air-launched missiles, along with gravity bombs. In addition, as many as 3,000 tactical nuclear weapons rounded out an arsenal totaling approximately 5,000 strategic and tactical weapons. Today, Ukraine’s remaining nuclear activities are entirely civilian in nature, and Ukraine is a member of all major nonproliferation treaties and regimes."


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Lesson From Ukraine: Breaking Promises to Small Countries Means They’ll Never Give Up Nukes
In the 1990s, world powers promised Ukraine that if it disarmed, they would not violate its security. That promise was broken.

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theintercept.com

Lesson From Ukraine: Breaking Promises to Small Countries Means They’ll Never Give Up Nukes

A lesson from Ukraine after Russia's invasion: Breaking promises to small countries means they’ll never give up their nuclear weapons.
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