Dahua NVR 5216

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Hey everyone, thinking about getting a NVR5216-4KS2.

I know a lot of people suggest a dedicated computer with BI. But i can get it for $200 on


Is this ok for a set and forget it?

How does it compare to other NVRs ?

I have a Cisco WS-C3560X-24P-L Standalone 24 10/100/1000 Ethernet PoE+ 715W

I would love to hear your thoughts and recommendations
 
I've been using one for a few years. Excellent reliability. I use smartPss for viewing which I think is overall nicer than using the NVR's UI.
 
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I've been using one for a few years. Excellent reliability. I use smartPss for viewing which I think is overall nicer than using the NVR's UI.
Is $206 a good price ?

Are you using a separate switch ?

What made you go with that NVR as compared to something else?
 
I use a separate switch to keep replacement cost down in case something fails or I want to replace the NVR. I didn't know about BI when I started. I later tried BI and decided to stay with the NVR, but had I started with BI I might well have stuck with it. $206 is a great price, but did you look at the shipping charge? Once that's added in you might do just as well money-wise getting it from Andy (Empire Tech). If you do get one, you need to stay with Dahua cameras. With BI you can mix and match cameras.
 
I use a separate switch to keep replacement cost down in case something fails or I want to replace the NVR. I didn't know about BI when I started. I later tried BI and decided to stay with the NVR, but had I started with BI I might well have stuck with it. $206 is a great price, but did you look at the shipping charge? Once that's added in you might do just as well money-wise getting it from Andy (Empire Tech). If you do get one, you need to stay with Dahua cameras. With BI you can mix and match cameras.
I thought that NVR was onvif compatible??
 
I use a separate switch to keep replacement cost down in case something fails or I want to replace the NVR. I didn't know about BI when I started. I later tried BI and decided to stay with the NVR, but had I started with BI I might well have stuck with it. $206 is a great price, but did you look at the shipping charge? Once that's added in you might do just as well money-wise getting it from Andy (Empire Tech). If you do get one, you need to stay with Dahua cameras. With BI you can mix and match cameras.
Your right though, shipping is an additional $100.

So about $300 total cost
 
I thought that NVR was onvif compatible??
It is, but you lose the use of some camera features when you don't match the camera brand with the NVR brand.
 
Do you know what feature specifically?

The AI detection for cars and people ?

What cameras are you running?

Yes you would likely lose higher level AI functionality between NVR and camera.
 
Do you know what feature specifically?

The AI detection for cars and people ?

What cameras are you running?
Other than saying I run 15 Dahua cameras and one Hikvision camera, I'm not able to answer specifically what features are lost with non-Dahua cameras on a Dahua NVR, because I don't know the other cameras. I'll answer in the opposite direction as an example. If running Dahua cameras on a different brand NVR, the IVS features would be lost. Besides the higher level AI features, it would include losing line crossing detection and similar functions which for me at least are among the most valuable features. Many of the camera configuration options via the NVR would not be available. Basic motion detection is available through ONVIF, but you're counting on it being implemented correctly in both the camera and NVR, which is not a sure thing. And even if it works right, the basic motion detection is seriously lame compared to IVS in the camera or BI's motion detection. Even thought I'm pretty happy with my NVR and recommend it, if you want to mix camera brands I'd advise you to use BI instead.
 
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Other than saying I run 15 Dahua cameras and one Hikvision camera, I'm not able to answer specifically what features are lost with non-Dahua cameras on a Dahua NVR, because I don't know the other cameras. I'll answer in the opposite direction as an example. If running Dahua cameras on a different brand NVR, the IVS features would be lost. Besides the higher level AI features, it would include losing line crossing detection and similar functions which for me at least are among the most valuable features. Many of the camera configuration options via the NVR would not be available. Basic motion detection is available through ONVIF, but you're counting on it being implemented correctly in both the camera and NVR, which is not a sure thing. And even if it works right, the basic motion detection is seriously lame compared to IVS in the camera or BI's motion detection. Even thought I'm pretty happy with my NVR and recommend it, if you want to mix camera brands I'd advise you to use BI instead.
What cameras do you have ?

What is your best / favorite model ?

How difficult is the Dahua NVR system ?

The setup process?

I bought a cisco poe+ switch, but me being honest i don't understand the benefits of running it with a nvr. Is it just to help segment the network? ( I mean keep the network only locally accessible or through a vpn ) but can't the NVR do that also ? What's the benefit of running a NVR with a switch ?
 
Cameras I have:
I have 3 generations of cameras. The oldest are 4 megapixel chinese region cameras, then 2 megapixel international region starlights, and 4 megapixel international region starlights. They have all been good cameras, with the newer generations bringing significant improvements in low light sensitivity. It is no longer feasible to buy a chinese region dahua cameras to use with a dahua NVR, so don't spend much time being tempted. My favorite camera now is the 5442 series 4 megapixel starlight, with zoom if you need that. If it were somebody else's money that's all I'd have. I have not dabbled with PTZ or higher megapixels.

The Dahua NVR is a bit difficult until you learn it, then not so difficult. I find it easier to view using the smartPss program running on a PC on the network. Hard to give a general answer about the setup. Most of the work is with setting up each camera. You can run default settings, or spend a lot of time tweaking things.

Using an NVR with the built in switch makes for easier setup. If nothing goes wrong it's pretty much plug-and-play with no networking knowledge required. With a separate switch at least a bit of networking knowledge is required. The separate switch allows for more flexibility at the cost of more complexity. For me, the separate switch is the better choice. The main reason was to be able to replace a failed NVR or switch without having to throw the other one away also. The 5216 with built in switch is a lot noisier than the switchless model, but a lot of the switches have pretty darn loud fans. You don't have to use any of the advanced capabilities of the cisco switch, but they are there if you want them down the road.
 
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Cameras I have:
I have 3 generations of cameras. The oldest are 4 megapixel chinese region cameras, then 2 megapixel international region starlights, and 4 megapixel international region starlights. They have all been good cameras, with the newer generations bringing significant improvements in low light sensitivity. It is no longer feasible to buy a chinese region dahua cameras to use with a dahua NVR, so don't spend much time being tempted. My favorite camera now is the 5442 series 4 megapixel starlight, with zoom if you need that. If it were somebody else's money that's all I'd have. I have not dabbled with PTZ or higher megapixels.

The Dahua NVR is a bit difficult until you learn it, then not so difficult. I find it easier to view using the smartPss program running on a PC on the network. Hard to give a general answer about the setup. Most of the work is with setting up each camera. You can run default settings, or spend a lot of time tweaking things.

Using an NVR with the built in switch makes for easier setup. If nothing goes wrong it's pretty much plug-and-play with no networking knowledge required. With a separate switch at least a bit of networking knowledge is required. The separate switch allows for more flexibility at the cost of more complexity. For me, the separate switch is the better choice. The main reason was to be able to replace a failed NVR or switch without having to throw the other one away also. The 5216 with built in switch is a lot noisier than the switchless model, but a lot of the switches have pretty darn loud fans. You don't have to use any of the advanced capabilities of the cisco switch, but they are there if you want them down the road.
You are so amazing.

Thank you for answering my question.

Any chance you know the 5216 switchless model number ?

I am going to try and look for it right now
 
What do refurbished computers go for where you are...people here have got a refurbished computer that work fine for BI for that or less. And you have a lot more flexibility than an NVR. After owning several NVRs and now going to Blue Iris, I am not going back...
 
What do refurbished computers go for where you are...people here have got a refurbished computer that work fine for BI for that or less. And you have a lot more flexibility than an NVR. After owning several NVRs and now going to Blue Iris, I am not going back...

I could easily buy one from ebay or some online retailers

Any suggestions?
 
See this wiki - now with substreams option available in Blue Iris to bring CPU usage down, you can go with one of the cheapest you can find from this list of intel generations. I am running 20-something cameras on a 4th generation at 10% CPU as an example.

 
Take a look here: US $288.42 |Network Video Recorder NVR 5216 4KS2 V2 16 Channel 1U 4K&H.265 Pro Network Video Recorder free DHL shipping|Surveillance Video Recorder| - AliExpress .
This is the aliexpress site of Andy, a vendor in Hong Kong who has been used by many on ipcamtalk. He has his own forum in the vendors section. If you have paypal an easier way to order is send him an email for a quote, then ask him to send an invoice to your paypal account. The invoice arrives, you pay it, then whatever you ordered arrives reasonably fast from Hong Kong. If you open up one of his posts the footer has the email address for inquiries.
 
See this wiki - now with substreams option available in Blue Iris to bring CPU usage down, you can go with one of the cheapest you can find from this list of intel generations. I am running 20-something cameras on a 4th generation at 10% CPU as an example.


Amazing ;!

I have been checking eBay for used computers.

Check these out




Any preference??
 
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Either one should work. It appears the Dell has Windows Pro and an SSD which would be the preferred. Then get a hard drive for storage (most here go with WD Purple) and you already have the switch, so then a $60ish BI license and you are off and running!
 
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Either one should work. It appears the Dell has Windows Pro and an SSD which would be the preferred. Then get a hard drive for storage (most here go with WD Purple) and you already have the switch, so then a $60ish BI license and you are off and running!
I'm tech savvy so i can whatever version of windows free ( torrents)

But yeah the SSD is legit. Probably go with that.

Andy said $270 for the 5216 nvr. So $220 total for the desktop and BI is a $50 save ($220)