Which system up to 300€

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Feb 18, 2020
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Hello,

I received the RLK4-211WB system yesterday. Unfortunately I do not get an RTSP-Url. While I'm still waiting for the answer of the manufacturer, I want to ask for alternative ones.
My requirements:

  • Wlan cameras, because unfortunately I don't have LAN at these locations
  • IP6X, because they will be used outside
  • full HD
  • <= 300€
  • RTSP or similar

I want to use it to monitor my entrance area and garden. I would like to be informed in case of movement. I would like to have a trigger in openhab(smarthome system), but that is not necessary.
But a pushnotification should come.
I would like to be able to pick up the individual streams in the network.

PS: What do you think about the following systems?
  • Zosi 8-Channel 1080p H265? ~250€ with HDD
  • Sannce 8-Channel 1080p H264+ ~250€ with HDD
 
fanavity said:
Hello,

I received the RLK4-211WB system yesterday. Unfortunately I do not get an RTSP-Url. While I'm still waiting for the answer of the manufacturer, I want to ask for alternative ones.
My requirements:

  • Wlan cameras, because unfortunately I don't have LAN at these locations
  • IP6X, because they will be used outside
  • full HD
  • <= 300€
  • RTSP or similar

I want to use it to monitor my entrance area and garden. I would like to be informed in case of movement. I would like to have a trigger in openhab(smarthome system), but that is not necessary.
But a pushnotification should come.
I would like to be able to pick up the individual streams in the network.

PS: What do you think about the following systems?
  • Zosi 8-Channel 1080p H265? ~250€ with HDD
  • Sannce 8-Channel 1080p H264+ ~250€ with HDD
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Welcome to ipcamtalk @fanavity

Do take a look at the various resources here ( see the wiki, the cliff notes, reviews by members, and some of the threads )

1) Identify what you want the cameras to accomplish. ( see the DORI section of the cliff notes )
2) <= 300€ - if you can afford better than this, it would be good. Hard to get a decent setup at that price point, especially right now as the Corona virus has hit the supply chain so less supplies available ( and thus less deals )

Zosi, Sannce - they've got some very affordable products which imho are not worth purchasing. Better to just get one good camera than a lot of cameras which fail to perform to what you need.
 
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what do you think about the Reolink system I bought? I’m very happy with the quality. Only the missing RTSP is bad :(

Are the cheap systems really so bad.
 
fanavity said:
what do you think about the Reolink system I bought? I’m very happy with the quality. Only the missing RTSP is bad :(

Are the cheap systems really so bad.
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Hi @fanavity

There's quite a bit of dislike of Reolink here at ipcamtalk. Do take some time to search for Reolink in the titles here to find threads which discuss the topic.

"..Are the cheap systems really so bad. " - Are cheap Eastern German ( GDR ) cars or Eastern Block cars that bad?
 
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fanavity said:
can anyone recommend a wlan nvr with Onvif and RTSP stream to me? The nvr should not cost more than 150€.
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Hi @fanavity

I would not recommend a NVR with WiFi built in ( WLAN - wireless LAN ). Try to go with a wired solution, they are much more reliable. For WiFi cameras that augment a good wired setup, most of us use a "normal" WiFi router. This way you can replace the WiFi router as needed.
 
Unfortunately I cannot lay a cable at the installation locations. Therefore I have to use a wlan solution. In order not to burden my normal wifi, I am looking for an nvr with wifi, which then builds up its own network. If there are alternatives I am always open. I just can not lay a cable.
 
Do you have some cheap examples? I can’t find cameras with this standard. Only from unifi. But this one is a little bit expensive.
 
www.netgear.fr

CPL 2000

Utilisez votre câblage électrique existant pour étendre votre accès Internet à toutes les pièces de votre maison. Branchez votre adaptateur CPL 2000 équipé de prise filtrée à votre installation électrique et connectez-vous à ce nouveau réseau. C'est aussi simple que ça ! Fort de sa vitesse...
www.netgear.fr www.netgear.fr

BICK
 
I've been thinking about dlan, too. However, it will also be quite expensive. Such an adapter costs about 30-40€. How many Mbit per camera are recommended? Because I partly have to bridge 40-50 meters of distance.
 
fanavity said:
Unfortunately I cannot lay a cable at the installation locations. Therefore I have to use a wlan solution. In order not to burden my normal wifi, I am looking for an nvr with wifi, which then builds up its own network. If there are alternatives I am always open. I just can not lay a cable.
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@fanavity

WiFi NVRs are not that great, especially with the budget you are looking at.

Look at a normal NVR + separate wifi equipment ( search here for that.. look for ubiquiti in the search terms.. )
 
When I buy a standard lan nvr, do I connect the cameras then ? I would do it with a dlan adapter. There would only be one lan cable coming to the nvr. Does it work? Sorry for the stupid questions :/
 
Do you have a recommendation for me when I take a standard nvr? The price should not be > 350€.

PS: This i the set i actually prefer.

BERGHOCH | 4x 8MP Kamera Set | Aussen | Berghoch

Lieferumfang (1x) BERGHOCH 16 Kanal NVR Aufnahmegerät (1x) 2000 GB vorinstallierte Festplatte (1x) Netzteil für NVR (1x) USB-Maus (4x) Basic Aussen Überwachungskamera mit Nachtsicht (4x) 30m Netzwerkkabel für Überwachungskamera (1x) POE Netzwerkswitch 6+2 (1x) Netzteil für POE Switch (2x)...
www.berghoch.de
 
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The problem with Aliexpress are the shipping costs and customs duties. If I could find a cheap supplier in Europe, that would be great, because then there would be no customs duties.
 
fanavity said:
The problem with Aliexpress are the shipping costs and customs duties. If I could find a cheap supplier in Europe, that would be great, because then there would be no customs duties.
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Hi @fanavity

FYI - Andy ( @EMPIRETECANDY ) has worked with others in the EU to keep the costs good and iirc already may even have inventory in the EU for distribution. So do contact and at least inquire so you can get a good comparison. Most of us like the newer 4MP Dahua OEM starlight+ models.
 
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why does dahua have so many cameras? Unfortunately I can't see any difference between them. For example
IPC-HDW2431T-AS-S2
vs
IPC-HDBW2431E-S-S2
vs
IPC-HDW2431TM-AS-S2
vs
IPC-T2431T-AS

What should I look for when buying a Dahua camera? I have found resolutions of the article names, but there are always letters not explained. Unfortunately I am a little bit overstrained :(
 
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fanavity said:
why does dahua have so many cameras? Unfortunately I can't see any difference between them. For example
IPC-HDW2431T-AS-S2
vs
IPC-HDBW2431E-S-S2
vs
IPC-HDW2431TM-AS-S2
vs
IPC-T2431T-AS

What should I look for when buying a Dahua camera? I have found resolutions of the article names, but there are always letters not explained. Unfortunately I am a little bit overstrained :(
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hint: see the cliff notes
 
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