Picking the Right Cable?

brightnight

brightnight

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Read a lot of posts on here, just want someone to confirm I'm on the right track before I make a purchase. Looking for 1000' roll of quality outdoor Ethernet cable. Will be running some cables outdoors for 300-400ft each with ePoE between some Dahua IPC-HFW5231E-Z12E cameras and a Dahua NVR5208-8P-4KS2E NVR. Also plan on putting in a Ubiquiti Networks ETH-SP-G2 Ethernet Surge Protector because it's near a location that lightning often strikes. Not sure when to put the surge protector, would be expensive to buy one for each of my four cameras but I suppose if I have to...

Ubiquiti Networks TC-PRO TOUGHCable PRO Level 1 Outdoor CAT5e Cable (1000'):

Ubiquiti NetworksTC-PRO TOUGHCable PRO Level 1 Outdoor CAT5e Cable (1000')


Ubiquiti Networks TOUGHCable Ethernet Connectors with Grounding Wire($15):


Ubiquiti NetworksTOUGHCable Ethernet Connectors with Grounding Wire (Box of 20)
 
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Q™ said:
Shireen DC-1042 is a high quality outdoor shielded dry gel tape CAT5e cable. Features an outer jacket, 4 Twisted pairs of 24AWG wire with LDPE + Dry Gel Tape. Excellent or use in any outdoor/direct burial application of networking, data transfer and phone lines. It supports 10/100/1000Mbps.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MG7BMPW/ref=psdc_9938477011_t1_B009WA56NK
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That does look like nice cable and the reviews on the one I posted said it isn't rated to direct burial. I was really hoping to get something a bit cheaper then what you posted but I might have to bite the bullet on this one. Thanks for the suggestion!
 
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Thank you so much for the advice! Most of the cable will be laying on a slope above a wetland and maybe 10ft of it will be a few inches under the surface if that(all well drained soil). I will be running some long cable so even though conduit is cheap I'm not sure it's doable for 300ft but definitely worth a second thought. I did go ahead and buy the double jacked gel cable. The gel inside does worry me a little when I'm making splices but I assume I will be able to figure it out.

Do I have to use any special connectors or or different tools then a normal Ethernet cable when cutting to to length and making connections that will be outdoors? Thanks again
 
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Regular good quality RJ45 connectors. When crimping gel-filled cable have a good supply of something similar to these to clean the gel off of the twisted-pair before you crinp...

https://www.amazon.com/Kendall-Covidien-Alcohol-Prep-Count/dp/B000RFSB9A

...try to find one which are very wet.

Do not count on conduit to protect against water intrusion. It has been said that "it's not IF water will get in conduit, but WHEN." Conduit protects first and foremost against cable damage.
 
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brightnight said:
That does look like nice cable and the reviews on the one I posted said it isn't rated to direct burial.
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FWIW, the DC-1042 specs on Shireen's site say that it is rated for direct burial.
That being said, if you can swing it, I'd go with @Q™ 's suggestion about the double jacketed DC-1020.
And if you just hit the lottery, put it in PVC conduit to help prevent (but not totally prevent) mechanical damage from roots, gophers, shovels and shifting soils/rocks. It's an extra level of protection.
 
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TonyR said:
And if you just hit the lottery, put it in PVC conduit to help prevent (but not totally prevent) mechanical damage from roots, gophers, shovels and shifting soils/rocks. It's an extra level of protection.
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One weekend afternoon several years ago it was Q vs. THE BIG-ASS ROOT. Me and my trusty cutter mattock beat that bastid root six ways from Sunday until, after much toil and trouble, I triumphantly prevailed. I reached into that muck filled stink hole and pulled that big old nasty root out. Only to find a 24 inch section of orangeburg sewage pipe in my hand. Fuq. Me.
 
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Q™ said:
One weekend afternoon several years ago it was Q vs. THE BIG-ASS ROOT.
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Yikes!

That reminds me that I learned some sage advice (and some choice cuss words) at a young age from my late dad:
"Don't EVER let a weeping willow tree or any kind of bamboo grow within 200 feet of your sewer line or septic tank field lines".

Their root ends grow hair-like and penetrate loose couplings and imperfect seams in pipes, etc. then become full roots once inside the pipe.

And we've all seen where most trees can lift up concrete sidewalks and split paved roads with tremendous root strength....so a piece of conduit is certainly no obstacle.:facepalm:
 
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When I laid a conduit underground, I took advice from an elderly neighbour & former groundsman.

I used blue alcathene pipe (flexible, but not much !) and before I backfilled the trench put a hefty dose of salt around & over the conduit

Many years later, whilst digging again near the conduit it became exposed. Out of interest I excavated a few meters to find that no roots from our overgrown garden had grown anywhere near the conduit

A cheap option for avoiding root problems I now use when laying any conduit or cabling
 
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BigFoot said:
A cheap option for avoiding root problems I now use when laying any conduit or cabling
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I may do much the same thing using rock salt when I replace my gravel driveway.
 
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