Can someone recommend a good quality inexpensive IP PTZ camera?

[Eddie Current]

I'm looking to add 1 IP PTZ camera to my BI setup. POE is not important, 1.0mp and up, 720p and up, IP66 or better.

Cheers

Eddie

 

[nayr]

check out this one, its not IP66 rated however but it works fine indoors or protected outdoors like on a porch/patio: https://www.ipcamtalk.com/showthread.php/9163-Dahua-Mini-Black-Face-PTZ-(SD29204S-GN)

 

[Eddie Current]

That is a nice cam. and will consider it for my next upgrade. I will add that i need one that is IP66 as it will be on the front of the house without overhang.

 

[nayr]

thats the only Quality + Inexpensive PTZ I have encountered, anything else pick one: inexpensive or quality, your very unlikely to get both.

Quality PTZ's typically start off ~$300 and top off ~$800, depending on Zoom, IR capabilities, and other features.

You can get quality and inexpensive fixed cameras all day long, the problem is when you add moving parts you guarantee an eventual failure.. movement == friction == wear and tear, so to maintain a level of quality that is able to live the same long life as a fixed camera can requires alot of money on quality motors, belts, gears and electronics... for example I have a very high quality Big Black Face dahua (12x zoom ~$600), and it came with a 2 year warranty.. however, had I put it into continuos motion (panning/touring) permanently, then my warranty was void immediately.

 

[klasipca]

You will probably want to define for yourself what you mean by "quality", if you are referring to reliability that's one thing, if you asking for best image then it's another, but if you titled it "good night quality inexpensive IP PTZ camera" then Mini PTZ v2 is the only option for outdoors

 

[Eddie Current]

I can see the point you guys are making. I like the quality of the IPC-HDB4300F-PT Mini Pan-Tilt, but need IP66, I found these two cams what do you think?

SD59220T-HN

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/DAHUA-2Mp-Full-HD-12x-Mini-Network-PTZ-Dome-Camera-IP66-Original-English-Version-without-Logo/32605756344.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.17.MfYHDP&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_8,searchweb201602_1_10049_10017_405_404_407_406_10040,searchweb201603_1&btsid=6a66723f-96b5-4bda-a491-cad6087aa379


SD22204T-GN

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/DAHUA-Security-IP-Camera-CCTV-2MP-Full-HD-Network-Mini-PTZ-Dome-Camera-4x-Optical-zoom/32670861132.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.2.X3xG4N&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_8,searchweb201602_1_10049_10017_405_404_407_406_10040,searchweb201603_1&btsid=6a66723f-96b5-4bda-a491-cad6087aa379

 

[nayr]

The big features those lack are IR, and because they are domes if they did have IR they would suck.. they do come with IR filters, so you can freely use external illuminators which will prevent alot of issues with bugs/dust/pollen at night.

my only concern with domes outdoors is how much sunlight will they be exposed to? if they never see shade I would expect that plastic dome to start clouding up due to UV degradation after a few years.

 

[Eddie Current]

The big features those lack are IR, and because they are domes if they did have IR they would suck.. they do come with IR filters, so you can freely use external illuminators which will prevent alot of issues with bugs/dust/pollen at night.

my only concern with domes outdoors is how much sunlight will they be exposed to? if they never see shade I would expect that plastic dome to start clouding up due to UV degradation after a few years.

Ok, so what are your thoughts on this one that has IR.

DAHUA 1.3Mp HD Cost-effective Network IR PTZ Dome Camera IP66 with 100M IR Distance without logo SD6C120T-HN

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/DAHUA-1-3Mp-HD-Cost-effective-Network-IR-PTZ-Dome-Camera-IP66-with-100M-IR-Distance/32606803549.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.75.MfYHDP& ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_8,searchweb201602_1_10049_10017_405_404_407_406_10040,searchweb201603_1&btsid=6a66723f-96b5-4bda-a491-cad6087aa379

 

[nayr]

well I dont think many people have a valid excuse for deploying 720p cameras in today's age, but if your on a strict budget trying to keep high quality.. then I suppose thats a good counter argument.. you obviously loose image quality at a lower resolution.

What is this camera's primary objective? 24/7 Security? Wildlife? Children/Pets? Weather/Scenery? If its anything other than security, dropping the resolution wont really have much of a negative impact on capabilities.. if your using this for security purposes, you do have alot of Zoom to work with to counteract the lower resolution.. dont expect any nice wide angles, but it would work well watching a door a few hundred feet away... check out https://ipvm.com/calculator and keep the PPF > 100 to maintain identification capabilities.

 

[Eddie Current]

24/7 Security only, just about the same as yours but will be center to the driveway over the garage. I will add the one like yours under the front door canopy later. This next one has a tad bit better specs or a few more dollars. Is this one a little closer to what you might be thinking?

DAHUA 2MP 20X IR PTZ Dome Camera IP66 Full HD Onvif High-speed Dome with 100M IR Distance Without Logo SD6C220S-HN

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/DAHUA-2MP-20X-IR-PTZ-Dome-Camera-IP66-Full-HD-Onvif-High-speed-Dome-with-100M/32268968445.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.231.LdRRjK&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_8,searchweb201602_1_10056_10055_10049_10017_405_404_407_10040,searchweb201603_1&btsid=38074d2f-d642-4b7b-ae34-ca55f9078005

 

[nayr]

yeah thats going to do better, I have an older version of this: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Dahua-2MP-1080p-Network-PTZ-Dome-IP-Onvif-Camera-12X-Zooming-IP66-100m-Infrared-Night-View/32267591484.html

on the back corner of my house, and it performs very well at the distances it can see..

here are some samples from that cam:

that camera has been up for 2 years now without giving me a moment of grief.. I paid $600 from a US vendor to get a warranty, that was never used.

 

[Eddie Current]

All great info guys, thank you.

 

[Del Boy]

Sricam... oh sorry you said good quality.

Dahua for speed dome, Huisun for PTZ bullet.

 

[nbstl68]

What about something like this?
Don't know anything about SUNBA but there are YouTube videos for it that look pretty good.

SUNBA 507-20XB
[h=1]2.0 Megapixel 1080P HD, 4.7~94.0mm, 20X Optical Zoom, IR-Cut Night Vision, PTZ Outdoor IP Security Dome Cameras ONVIF [/h]
$254 on Amazon
[h=1][/h][h=1][/h][h=1][/h]https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00S0C7WCO/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=2F2AF3FCJ7AYT&coliid=I1D4WH1FG3PNHE&psc=1

Videos:

Day

Night


Anyone have any experience with SUNBA?

 

[Del Boy]

Search brings back 2 pages of results.

Personally I'd avoid and get a Huisun bullet instead at that price.