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Thank you both. The Amcrest I got has a 4mm, so its not their 2.8. Ya know, another $100 doesnt sound bad. Ill talk to them about options and see if they want to plunge. Thank You both! Oh, and more money than time (two small kids and a new house)

Amcrest UltraHD 4K (8MP) Outdoor Bullet POE I totally agree. Its seeming pretty impossible at those ranges to do much at night. What I've turned to is getting a tighter focus to do something more useful, knowing when there's a bad guy at this door. Triggering BI's motion sensor in a couple...

Hello! Really like Amcrest with Blue Iris, worked well for my small setup with wide angles and short distances at my 1200 sqft cape cod. My inlaws liked the setup soo much, they wanted in on the custom security camera install. One hitch, they're country folk. Have a pole barn that's 60-70ft...