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    Comparing real pro cameras to home grade. More than resolution specs.

    Like wow, I have so many questions! First of all, I don't to be where you are! OMG! You can literally read those criminal minds! I notice your PTZ takes off at an exact point. Is that a trip wire event? What distances? I also notice them ALL look at your cam. Do you have lights on? It...
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    Comparing real pro cameras to home grade. More than resolution specs.

    Good stuff! Curious, since you are good with all these thread linkies, I am wondering if there is anything out there on real work done AT NIGHT with a PTZ? You go look on YT and it's nothing but YT fairies with perfecting lighting. Haven't seen one real event at night. I have concerns that...
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    Comparing real pro cameras to home grade. More than resolution specs.

    I agree but as I struggle to get up to speed as fast as I can, you gave some critical advice regarding constant patrol routines. Making me wonder what else I don't know. I do have a very rookie question on IP cams in general. Does the camera constantly send video back to the NVR regardless...
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    Drift in PTZ locations

    I will go on nothing but a hunch but being an industrial automation guy, I would suspect the movements may be via 'stepper motors' rather than proper servo/feedback encoder systems....to cut costs. the problem with open loop stepping is there is no report back to indicate to a controller if the...
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    Comparing real pro cameras to home grade. More than resolution specs.

    It would still be great for life cycle predictions to actually know how many "miles" these are good for, and a counter on how many you got! Now, being an automation guy, I could understand this being a pretty open question as things like being in the desert could be quite different than some...
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    Comparing real pro cameras to home grade. More than resolution specs.

    I should clarify that the PTZ employed in the prev example would be positioned at the rough center point of the fence so the furthest shot would be about 250ft. I planned to have additional cams backing that up as overview/spotter cams.
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    Comparing real pro cameras to home grade. More than resolution specs.

    Steve did put up a link in a prev post but thank you!
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    Comparing real pro cameras to home grade. More than resolution specs.

    It does seem a bit ambiguous that is is not clear what is counted as a "cycle", or why a camera would then inhibit certain functionality. I could see where a warning could appear, letting an owner know the are at a cyclic limit, but consider it to be where you buy a car where there is no...
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    Comparing real pro cameras to home grade. More than resolution specs.

    Thank you guys! I have reached out to Empire to see what we can work out. I am wanting the 5442 and the SDA PTZ. But as I work on the cam layout, I did want to ask about the special care or limitations of PTZs. I don't want to wear them out. Because our facility is fenced off, there...
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    Comparing real pro cameras to home grade. More than resolution specs.

    Steve per my prev post, could you point me to the F1.2 5442 variant from Empire? All I have seen are the F1.8
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    Comparing real pro cameras to home grade. More than resolution specs.

    Ah, I thought he was only talking about the color cams with F1.0, but 1.2 seems pretty close. Steve mentioned the "more premium" variant so I am wondering if he means you have more aperture adjustability? I could see where playing with the settings based on actual site lighting conditions...
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    Comparing real pro cameras to home grade. More than resolution specs.

    Very much agree! I think I am pretty close to 'thinking' I know what I need. Probably just need to see the 4MP bullets onsite. The main issue is the power company is dragging their feet with our light upgrades.
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    Comparing real pro cameras to home grade. More than resolution specs.

    Steve, I am interested in the 5442H-ZHE model you speak of. If I understand correct, the aperture being more open can improve light gathering thus better night performance? If so and there are no down sides, I am curious which model that might correspond to at Empire?
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    Comparing real pro cameras to home grade. More than resolution specs.

    Oh boy! Sounds like park it in an otherwise dead area and only let it zing when the time comes....
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    Comparing real pro cameras to home grade. More than resolution specs.

    Question, Steve recommended one of the Empire PTZs. Linky. EmpireTech PTZ5A4M-25X 1/1.8" CMOS 4MP 25x Starlight IR 5.4mm–135mm Va However, I was trying to find which this is on the Dahua site and there are two that I can only see differences in software or IVS type features? But as for PTZs...
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    Comparing real pro cameras to home grade. More than resolution specs.

    My apology sir! I remembered you mentioned it and I've been trying to soak up all your helpful data. The brain just can only soak up so much in one squeeze. So, I have several places that I feel the 5442 variants will be perfectly great! Like simply monitoring traffic right at the gate...
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    Comparing real pro cameras to home grade. More than resolution specs.

    Fully agree that at some point, I need to get some cams and test! Question, having not even run a vari focal, will any of these attempt to automatically change focal length or focus to attempt a best shot when something is detected in IVS? Or is that level of automation only reserved for PTZ...
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    Comparing real pro cameras to home grade. More than resolution specs.

    Hmm, you stepped on something that I need more clarity on. The aperture. I don't think there will be any issue splurging a bit for better gear, given all the labor that has to go into this! Can you explain more on the aperture? As well, I think I am reevaluating the application of PTZ. I...
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    Comparing real pro cameras to home grade. More than resolution specs.

    I get the optics. I certainly appreciate all the help, and obviously I am just frustrated because I realize many here are in "play" mode, working with a small-ish residential lot, and we have not only the 5ac to cover, we have several buildings, plus the desire to get prelim into outside the...
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    Comparing real pro cameras to home grade. More than resolution specs.

    I think what gives me pause is realizing that to capture a clean imagine, I am stuck with like this magic 10x10 area. That's it, anymore and all is lost. As in your example in the linked thread, sure enough a guy was captured on video, BUT the difference is you know where to focus the cam...
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    Comparing real pro cameras to home grade. More than resolution specs.

    Are you saying a fixed FL would produce a better image than a variable FL? When you mention "the distance you are trying to identify", that does give me pause as surely there has to be a range? I am trying to learn that detail right now, basically what the focused distances are with a given...
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    Comparing real pro cameras to home grade. More than resolution specs.

    I'm currently looking at a model Color4K-X, 8MP on Empire. If I understand right, the words color/true color/etc just mean they have white lights onboard? Sometimes replacing the IR system, so no IR? At least in one place, the area will be well supported with dusk/dawn flood lighting, but...
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    Comparing real pro cameras to home grade. More than resolution specs.

    So on the 5442, I have seen a few variants. Is this mostly the focal length ranges?
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    Comparing real pro cameras to home grade. More than resolution specs.

    I will have to eval thermal solutions prob a bit later. For the moment I need to get some new gear running and learn from it. To my next question, help me select the right cameras or narrow this down? I've got several projects on my plate but today I am working on my layout. I am currently...
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    layout design. POE switches and backbones

    I believe with some creative work, I can keep all runs under 330ft. I need the remotes switches anyway to cut down on cabling extremes but I am closely examining what all we lose if a particular switch fails. Probably not the end of the world. This ain't walmart. Would be pure chance we have...
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    layout design. POE switches and backbones

    I agree and I don't like that a single switch dropping out can take out several cams. I am looking for options in the shop as I type to run dedicated circuits. Probably want to add at least a small UPS at every switch too. I was first dreaming up bigger switches, but the more I think, if we...
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    layout design. POE switches and backbones

    I missed that, my apology. In my head, I want to call them 'boosters'.
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    layout design. POE switches and backbones

    I guess I may need to call my IT guy or get educated on this because I keep reading that as long as you drop into another switch within 328ft, it all starts over.... So NVR out 328 to first switch, then 328ft to second switch, then 328ft to camera. Total run 3x328ft. I love the Ubiquity...
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    layout design. POE switches and backbones

    Are you saying the POE side of the switch, between switch and camera only? I am able to work within that spec, which I understand is actually 100M or 328ft? If I can run a longer backbones which is data only, I can make it all work. Sounds like on the data rate side, no concerns. I can...
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    layout design. POE switches and backbones

    I am working on a layout for a facility with multiple but adjoined buildings. There is no question we will need several POE switches. We will not consider 5e cable. At a minimum, CAT6 will be run. It is understood that cable runs between any switch and a camera or other POE device should be...
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