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    Long outdoors netwok cable run

    The spool of FO arrived, and I ripped a segment of cable to get a feel for it. First photo: cable in a piece of ¾” conduit, for scale. Cable is approximately the size of Cat 6 copper, and about the same stiffness. Second photo: the orange ripcord is at 4 o’clock, the 12 fiber strands are...
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    Long outdoors netwok cable run

    Time to get a hands-on feel for FO. Ordered cable at the link @jnissen posted, and a few tools will be next. Even if I end up going to Plan B, this will be tuition to learn something. Until recently I had at best a vague understanding of FO. Water in the conduit is going to be a serious...
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    Long outdoors netwok cable run

    My understanding of FO is certainly growing - one needs a pair of fibers for one run, OM3 multi-mode is the way to go, and avoid unnecessary joints – run from switch to far point (like an outbuilding) without any intermediate terminations. Got that. In my case, there are three possible paths...
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    Long outdoors netwok cable run

    Thanks - will definitely terminate all pairs. Once I mobilize, may as well be done with it for future flexibility. Even in one person's time in a home, things can trigger change. The ability to adapt and reconfigure often opens up possibilities one may not have thought of at inception.
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    Long outdoors netwok cable run

    I'm beginning to wrap my head around FO cable now. The outer dia of the six strand OM3 is 6.3mm (1/4") so perhaps it can be it can be pulled through the existing 328' long 3/4" conduit, which I was thinking was too thin. I am going to look for someone to do the terminations, and perhaps the pull...
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    Long outdoors netwok cable run

    Thanks @MTL4. I am taking from the image of the cable at the link and from the associated specs PDF that 24-strand means it is like 24 fiber cables. If one wanted two runs of fiber and used such a cable, one would not install two runs of the entire cable, rather, one run would leave 22 spares. I...
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    Long outdoors netwok cable run

    Thanks @jnissen. The above 800 ft spool you linked to would provide just the right amount of cable for my two runs. The info you provided some time back, and the encouragement, got me ready to terminate my own cable, Then, I got cold feet and started looking for pre-terminated cable! In a...
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    Long outdoors netwok cable run

    Thanks @Teken and @MTL4. A preliminary search got me to this single mode cable, which at least seems to check all the boxes except for mode. When I search for OM3 cables, so far whatever I find is multiples pricey. Question: Run 01 400' - will connect cam PoE switch at gate (power present...
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    Long outdoors netwok cable run

    Thank you for your response @Teken. The 1 1/2" partial-run installed is currently empty (205' in the ground already, another 123' to go), total end-to-end run of cable will be around 400' including indoors run to wiring room (EDIT). The sole purpose of that conduit is to contain fiber once I...
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    Long outdoors netwok cable run

    @Teken - I am now looking at two runs of fiber cables in the same conduit (or separate conduits if that were essential), one for cams and one for a gate controller which will be on a vlan for internet access. I'm inclined to use pre-terminated fiber cables. Questions: 1. What would be...
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    Cams and internet connectivity at driveway gate

    Thank you @looktall, @danweber1, @Keizer, and @tangent. I always assumed that FO would require a degree of precision which would be beyond my abilities. So I take the point well to use pre-terminated cable. I was tempted to attempt it because I have ¾” conduits that I was not smart enough at...
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    Cams and internet connectivity at driveway gate

    Thank you @TonyR, @looktall, and @Keizer. If I can run one FO cable, I may as well run two, once I figure out which FO cable to run. If I teach myself how to terminate FO, I can use existing ¾” conduits. If pre-terminated, then I have to wait until I can get a bigger conduit in the ground...
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    Cams and internet connectivity at driveway gate

    In a couple of other threads I had asked about a long outdoors network cable run (330 feet outdoors + 70 feet indoors to wiring center = 400 feet approx total) to a driveway gate, and camera location(s) at gate. The consensus was use FO for the networking run. The camera count clicked in at...
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    Review-Dahua/EmpireTech Dual lens IPC-HDBW5441F-AS-E2 (The Boobie Cam Upgrade)

    What physical orientation should the boobie cam HDBW5441F-AS-E2 be installed in? I have it as pictured and the time overlay from the cam is (was) upside down. I found my way to the option in the GUI to flip the image and mirror-image it, and the end state looks fine. But it got me wondering if I...
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    Good deal Annke 180 degree dual 1/1.8 for $220?

    I have two Annke NCD800’s in service and am happy with them. I paid $235 and $200 respectively for them, bought at two different points in time from Annke. Reading opinions and experience above with the FCD600, I am thinking of buying one. Optically it seems similar to the NCD800, and having...
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    Long outdoors netwok cable run

    @tech_junkie thanks for making the distinction between ethernet and PoE as regards length limits. If I could I would do this with copper cable because I have the basic know-how and tools to deal with it, and have a 50 amp power line at the far end (installed by the same electrician who left me...
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    Long outdoors netwok cable run

    Thanks @jnissen. I’ve not regretted infrastructure build outs that at the time people/installers thought was too much. Having wire and/or conduit in place becomes an enabler of new stuff. As we all know, once you set up to do something or have it done, incremental cost of additional things is...
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    In-ground conduit for cam related cables

    Thanks @Heavyopp and @Ri22o. I see the point about wanting pipe to break at a spot rather than have a long section get ripped out of the ground. Also the point about low utilization of shrub zones. I've lived on well pumps for quite a few years. When building my current house I learned about...
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    Long outdoors netwok cable run

    @jnissen Very helpful input, thank you! I may be going conduit happy ... in another thread there is discussion around my moving a later planned irrigation project to sooner just so I can get conduits in the ground. BTW I think you are referring to "sweep elbows".
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    In-ground conduit for cam related cables

    Now is the better time for robust discussion than when stuff is in the ground. Likely will be 16 active zones (23 less three plant beds and four stub-outs). One well for everything, and some of the zones that I have not worked out in detail yet will be lower volume. Timing of running zones will...
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    In-ground conduit for cam related cables

    Thanks @Heavyopp and @Ri22o. The evolving plan is: 1” sched 40 PVC all the way because stuff happens in the yard and class 200 PVC pipe is less forgiving. Water flow volume will not be enough that the increased internal size of class 200 pipe is a meaningful benefit in this instance...
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    In-ground conduit for cam related cables

    Thanks @Heavyopp, would have been great if you were located nearby. People in the irrigation business around here do not inspire confidence and the situation has prompted some traveling on the learning curve. Got one each of a Hunter PGV, and Rainbird DVF and PGA valves to check them out, and...
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    In-ground conduit for cam related cables

    Thank you @fergenheimer and @tigerwillow1. The major cost will be the trenching operation and closing up, and this is going to be a one-time shot for me. Am inclined towards 2", because we all know how regret tastes later. Wire conduits of these lengths should be at least 1½” (in this case 1"...
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    In-ground conduit for cam related cables

    From input in other threads regarding where to locate a camera(s) at a gate and on connecting a camera PoE switch from around 330-plus feet away, the cameras grew to seven, and it is clear that the long run network connection should be fiber optic. The existing buried conduit is ¾”, which is...
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    Long outdoors netwok cable run

    So far this is what I understand about fiber optic cables, and this understanding is a work-in-progress: 1. There is single-mode fiber optic cable and multi-mode fiber optic cable. Single mode is best suited for long distances, is skinnier, needs precision in installing, and is likely what...
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    Long outdoors netwok cable run

    @Teken thanks for your suggestions. Fiber sounds promising and would be something new for me to work on. Thanks for the alert on grounding. About a year ago I got coax based internet service. They brought the service in at the opposite end of the house that electrical service enters, and thus...
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    What is the best use of SD cards installed in cameras

    When I got into IP cams, my starting point was what I learned from this forum, Best as I recall, the general guidance was to install SD cards so that you have a backup recording of events, should primary recording on the Blue Iris PC fail. So I installed a 256 MB SD cards in each camera as I...
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    What is the best use of SD cards installed in cameras

    Thanks for pointing me in the right direction @Teken. Somehow I had missed the appropriate settings at the cam, now I'm looking in the right place. I can see my tests recorded something on the card, now have to figure out how to read the card across the network. The cards in my cams are Samsung...
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    Long outdoors netwok cable run

    Request input on expanding network wiring from inside the house to more of the site. Here is the situation, questions follow: Existing CamPoESwitch01lives in my “wiring center”, where all my wire home runs terminate (except electrical). CamPoESwitch02 will be around 75 wire-feet away, down a...
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    What is the best use of SD cards installed in cameras

    What is the best way to set up cams to use installed SD cards for backup storage or other purpose? Where are those settings accessed? At each cam via browser or in Blue Iris? In each of my cams I installed SD cards, but so far they are not in use.
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