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Also remember VP Mike Pence and Master cardinal,bishop, knighted and sainted, The revered
Guido Falduchi errr Tony Fauci MD. LSD FACS iD10T error, was in charge of this garbage!
How much did Mike make on this shi_, like the rest of those bastards up there?
 

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“Conspiracy Theory” Confirmed: Covid Jabs INCREASE Risk of Infection According to New England Journal of Medicine

Several recent studies have indicated the Covid-19 vaccines actually increase the risk of contracting the disease over time, but these studies have been ignored or even debunked by corporate media and Big Pharma for months. Now, they’ll have to contend with a new study published in the highly respected New England Journal of Medicine.

This study was huge in scale, sifting through data collected from over 100,000 people infected by the Omicron variant. It lends credibility to the statistical significance of the findings, which are absolutely startling. Here are the key points:

* Those who have been “fully vaccinated” with two shots from Moderna or Pfizer are more likely to contract Covid-19 than those who have not been vaccinated at all

* Booster shots offer protection approximately equal to natural immunity, but the benefits wane after 2-5 months

* Natural immunity lasts for at least 300-days, which is the length of the study; it likely lasts much longer

"Conspiracy Theory" Confirmed: Covid Jabs INCREASE Risk of Infection According to New England Journal of Medicine (noqreport.com)

Wait, are they gonna revoke my conspiracy theorist badge?
 

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The authors of the study found that those who had a prior infection but no vaccination had a 46.1 and 50 percent immunity against the two subvariants of the Omicron variant, even at an interval of more than 300 days since the previous infection.

However, individuals who received two doses of the Pfizer and Moderna vaccine but had no previous infection, were found with negative immunity against both BA.1 and BA.2 Omicron subvariants, indicating an increased risk of contracting COVID-19 than an average person.
Over six months after getting two doses of the Pfizer vaccine, immunity against any Omicron infection dropped to -3.4 percent. But for two doses of the Moderna vaccine, immunity against any Omicron infection dropped to -10.3 percent after more than six months since the last injection.

Though the authors reported that three doses of the Pfizer vaccine increased immunity to over 50 percent, this was measured just over 40 days after the third vaccination, which is a very short interval. In comparison, natural immunity persisted at around 50 percent when measured over 300 days after the previous infection, while immunity levels fell to negative figures 270 days after the second dose of vaccine.
 

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From that study--- the mountains of data on the P and M vaccines shows that there are serious questions about harm vs benefit...

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From the study found here
Serious Adverse Events of Special Interest Following mRNA Vaccination in Randomized Trials

Comparing the excess of serious AESI against the reduction of serious complications of COVID-
296 19 among the vaccinated is essential for harm-benefit analyses. The results show an excess
297 risk of serious AES Is greater than the reduction in COVID-19 hospitalizations in both Pfizer and
298 Moderna trials. These results are compatible with a recent preprint analysis of COVID-19
299 vaccine trials by Benn et al., which found no evidence of a reduction in overall mortality in the
300 mRNA vaccine trials based on data from the later, March 2021 BLA (Biologics License
301 Application) timepoints that underpinned subsequent regulatory approval (31 deaths in the
302 vaccine arms versus 30 events in the placebo arms


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375 A systematic review and meta-analysis using individual participant data should be undertaken to
376 address questions of harm-benefit in various demographic subgroups. Full transparency of the
377 COVID-19 vaccine clinical trial data is needed to properly evaluate these questions.
378 Unfortunately, well over a year after widespread use of COVID-19 vaccines, participant level
379 data remain inaccessible.36,
 

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Covid-19 vaccines and treatments: we must have raw data, now
Covid-19 vaccines and treatments: we must have raw data, now

Data should be fully and immediately available for public scrutiny
In the pages of The BMJ a decade ago, in the middle of a different pandemic, it came to light that governments around the world had spent billions stockpiling antivirals for influenza that had not been shown to reduce the risk of complications, hospital admissions, or death. The majority of trials that underpinned regulatory approval and government stockpiling of oseltamivir (Tamiflu) were sponsored by the manufacturer; most were unpublished, those that were published were ghostwritten by writers paid by the manufacturer, the people listed as principal authors lacked access to the raw data, and academics who requested access to the data for independent analysis were denied.1234
The Tamiflu saga heralded a decade of unprecedented attention to the importance of sharing clinical trial data.56 Public battles for drug company data,78 transparency campaigns with thousands of signatures,910 strengthened journal data sharing requirements,1112 explicit commitments from companies to share data,13 new data access website portals,8 and landmark transparency policies from medicines regulators1415 all promised a new era in data transparency.
Progress was made, but clearly not enough. The errors of the last pandemic are being repeated. Memories are short. Today, despite the global rollout of covid-19 vaccines and treatments, the anonymised participant level data underlying the trials for these new products remain inaccessible to doctors, researchers, and the public—and are likely to remain that way for years to come.16 This is morally indefensible for all trials, but especially for those involving major public health interventions.
Unacceptable delay
Pfizer’s pivotal covid vaccine trial was funded by the company and designed, run, analysed, and authored by Pfizer employees. The company and the contract research organisations that carried out the trial hold all the data.17 And Pfizer has indicated that it will not begin entertaining requests for trial data until May 2025, 24 months after the primary study completion date, which is listed on ClinicalTrials.gov as 15 May 2023 (NCT04368728).
The lack of access to data is consistent across vaccine manufacturers.16 Moderna says data “may be available … with publication of the final study results in 2022.”18 Datasets will be available “upon request and subject to review once the trial is complete,” which has an estimated primary completion date of 27 October 2022 (NCT04470427).

As of 31 December 2021, AstraZeneca may be ready to entertain requests for data from several of its large phase III trials.19 But actually obtaining data could be slow going. As its website explains, “timelines vary per request and can take up to a year upon full submission of the request.”20
Underlying data for covid-19 therapeutics are similarly hard to find. Published reports of Regeneron’s phase III trial of its monoclonal antibody therapy REGEN-COV flatly state that participant level data will not be made available to others.21 Should the drug be approved (and not just emergency authorised), sharing “will be considered.” For remdesivir, the US National Institutes of Health, which funded the trial, created a new portal to share data (NIAID Clinical Trials Repository), but the dataset on offer is limited. An accompanying document explains: “The longitudinal data set only contains a small subset of the protocol and statistical analysis plan objectives.”
We are left with publications but no access to the underlying data on reasonable request. This is worrying for trial participants, researchers, clinicians, journal editors, policy makers, and the public. The journals that have published these primary studies may argue that they faced an awkward dilemma, caught between making the summary findings available quickly and upholding the best ethical values that support timely access to underlying data. In our view, there is no dilemma; the anonymised individual participant data from clinical trials must be made available for independent scrutiny.

Journal editors, systematic reviewers, and the writers of clinical practice guideline generally obtain little beyond a journal publication, but regulatory agencies receive far more granular data as part of the regulatory review process. In the words of the European Medicine Agency’s former executive director and senior medical officer, “relying solely on the publications of clinical trials in scientific journals as the basis of healthcare decisions is not a good idea ... Drug regulators have been aware of this limitation for a long time and routinely obtain and assess the full documentation (rather than just publications).”22

Among regulators, the US Food and Drug Administration is believed to receive the most raw data but does not proactively release them. After a freedom of information request to the agency for Pfizer’s vaccine data, the FDA offered to release 500 pages a month, a process that would take decades to complete, arguing in court that publicly releasing data was slow owing to the need to first redact sensitive information.23 This month, however, a judge rejected the FDA’s offer and ordered the data be released at a rate of 55 000 pages a month. The data are to be made available on the requesting organisation’s website (Public Health and Medical Professionals for Transparency - Public Health and Medical Professionals for Transparency).

In releasing thousands of pages of clinical trial documents, Health Canada and the EMA have also provided a degree of transparency that deserves acknowledgment.2425 Until recently, however, the data remained of limited utility, with copious redactions aimed at protecting trial blinding. But study reports with fewer redactions have been available since September 2021,2425 and missing appendices may be accessible through freedom of information requests.
Even so, anyone looking for participant level datasets may be disappointed because Health Canada and the EMA do not receive or analyse these data, and it remains to be seen how the FDA responds to the court order. Moreover, the FDA is producing data only for Pfizer’s vaccine; other manufacturers’ data cannot be requested until the vaccines are approved, which the Moderna and Johnson & Johnson vaccines are not. Industry, which holds the raw data, is not legally required to honour requests for access from independent researchers.

Like the FDA, and unlike its Canadian and European counterparts, the UK’s regulator—the Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency—does not proactively release clinical trial documents, and it has also become delayed in posting information released in response to freedom of information requests on its website.26

Transparency and trust
As well as access to the underlying data, transparent decision making is essential. Regulators and public health bodies could release details27 such as why vaccine trials were not designed to test efficacy against infection and spread of SARS-CoV-2.28 Had regulators insisted on this outcome, countries would have learnt sooner about the effect of vaccines on transmission and been able to plan accordingly.29

Big pharma is the least trusted industry.30 At least three of the many companies making covid-19 vaccines have past criminal and civil settlements costing them billions of dollars.31 One pleaded guilty to fraud.31 Other companies have no pre-covid track record. Now the covid pandemic has minted many new pharma billionaires, and vaccine manufacturers have reported tens of billions in revenue.32

The BMJ supports vaccination policies based on sound evidence. As the global vaccine rollout continues, it cannot be justifiable or in the best interests of patients and the public that we are left to just trust “in the system,” with the distant hope that the underlying data may become available for independent scrutiny at some point in the future. The same applies to treatments for covid-19. Transparency is the key to building trust and an important route to answering people’s legitimate questions about the efficacy and safety of vaccines and treatments and the clinical and public health policies established for their use.

Twelve years ago we called for the immediate release of raw data from clinical trials.1 We reiterate that call now. Data must be available when trial results are announced, published, or used to justify regulatory decisions. There is no place for wholesale exemptions from good practice during a pandemic. The public has paid for covid-19 vaccines through vast public funding of research, and it is the public that takes on the balance of benefits and harms that accompany vaccination. The public, therefore, has a right and entitlement to those data, as well as to the interrogation of those data by experts.

Pharmaceutical companies are reaping vast profits without adequate independent scrutiny of their scientific claims.33 The purpose of regulators is not to dance to the tune of rich global corporations and enrich them further; it is to protect the health of their populations. We need complete data transparency for all studies, we need it in the public interest, and we need it now.
 

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Well I got the Fauchi virus again! First time I got it was the end of 2019. Woke up Monday feeling weird and it progressively got worse. Doctor offered Paxlovid. Each serving comes with two different pills. Didn't have to pay for Paxlovid which I thought was weird..
 

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And here’s the actual study…. Now where is @Frankenscript ?

The authors of the study found that those who had a prior infection but no vaccination had a 46.1 and 50 percent immunity against the two subvariants of the Omicron variant, even at an interval of more than 300 days since the previous infection.

However, individuals who received two doses of the Pfizer and Moderna vaccine but had no previous infection, were found with negative immunity against both BA.1 and BA.2 Omicron subvariants, indicating an increased risk of contracting COVID-19 than an average person.
Over six months after getting two doses of the Pfizer vaccine, immunity against any Omicron infection dropped to -3.4 percent. But for two doses of the Moderna vaccine, immunity against any Omicron infection dropped to -10.3 percent after more than six months since the last injection.

Though the authors reported that three doses of the Pfizer vaccine increased immunity to over 50 percent, this was measured just over 40 days after the third vaccination, which is a very short interval. In comparison, natural immunity persisted at around 50 percent when measured over 300 days after the previous infection, while immunity levels fell to negative figures 270 days after the second dose of vaccine.
Hi @bigredfish I hope you've been well. I have not been following this thread for over a year but since you tagged me so I would see your note next time I logged in, I took a look at your posts as quoted above.
While I won't be rejoining this thread generally, I'm happy to reply since you asked, or rather suggested, some questions and posited some conclusions. I'm passingly familiar with the NEJM study, which studied folks in Qatar as a small and relatively well documented population, I can offer a few thoughts, highlighting key points:

-The negative immunity for two doses is pretty trivial and likely just a statistical fluke based on inherent difference between people who chose to be vaccinated and those who didn't (age/health/activity difference between the groups). It doesn't REALLY mean that unvaccinated people were better off in terms of getting infected than folks who got two doses (see the confidence interval data). Just, young healthy partygoers who think they are invulnerable and don't need the vaccine tend to be at a higher risk generally. I'm not sure what passes for partying in QATAR though :)
-Just because two doses didn't confer immunity DOES NOT mean two doses didn't help. Those people were at much lower risk of developing severe covid disease, as the paper documents. So, the vaccine worked great in this population to control severe disease, even with just two doses.
-The results reported are not surprising; data broadly similar to this was reported long ago here in the States and was used to develop recommendations for keeping folks boosted; hence the fall boost program and more recently for older folks (including me), a fourth shot.
-Current variants look enough different from the original strain that the original vaccines aren't great at preventing spread of the virus. The current vaccines are pretty good at keeping you out of the hospital and dying. As the virus evolves, the current vaccines will be gradually less effective at this and we are seeing this in the data. New vaccines with broader scope for variants are on the horizon.
-The comparison you mentioned of 40 days post boost versus longer natural immunity is a consequence of the fact that the third shot had only been available for a short period of time when the study was run; longer term boost results weren't available. It (now) seems the third dose provides lasting protection against severe disease, and even to some extent infection, likely comparable to natural immunity. Papers are coming out about this; I've seen preprints and talked to doctors doing the research.

One thing to note when reviewing articles like this is that many biased outlets take things out of context, and write headlines and commentary that are misleading. For example:

"The effectiveness of two doses of BNT162b2 and no previous infection was negligible (−1.1%; 95% CI, −7.1 to 4.6). "

The things is, this was in a paragraph indicating the discussion was specifically talking about immunity to infection, and was not commenting on whether or not two doses helped prevent severe disease. I've seen this exact line used by conspiracy sites to malign the vaccines, when a proper reading of the paper makes it clear two doses can help a lot by keeping people from getting severe disease, and that a third dose is needed to reduce infection.

The last sentence in the paper says it all:

"All five forms of immunity were associated with strong and durable protection against Covid-19–related hospitalization and death. " (two shots of vaccine was among the five forms, along with natural immunity and hybrid).

Stay well! I still enjoy this site as the premier source of camera info. I'll likely be here more since I need to get some new cams soon...
 
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Hi @bigredfish I hope you've been well. I have not been following this thread for over a year but since you tagged me so I would see your note next time I logged in, I took a look at your posts as quoted above.
While I won't be rejoining this thread generally, I'm happy to reply since you asked, or rather suggested, some questions and posited some conclusions. I'm passingly familiar with the NEJM study, which studied folks in Qatar as a small and relatively well documented population, I can offer a few thoughts, highlighting key points:

-The negative immunity for two doses is pretty trivial and likely just a statistical fluke based on inherent difference between people who chose to be vaccinated and those who didn't (age/health/activity difference between the groups). It doesn't REALLY mean that unvaccinated people were better off in terms of getting infected than folks who got two doses (see the confidence interval data). Just, young healthy partygoers who think they are invulnerable and don't need the vaccine tend to be at a higher risk generally. I'm not sure what passes for partying in QATAR though :)
-Just because two doses didn't confer immunity DOES NOT mean two doses didn't help. Those people were at much lower risk of developing severe covid disease, as the paper documents. So, the vaccine worked great in this population to control severe disease, even with just two doses.
-The results reported are not surprising; data broadly similar to this was reported long ago here in the States and was used to develop recommendations for keeping folks boosted; hence the fall boost program and more recently for older folks (including me), a fourth shot.
-Current variants look enough different from the original strain that the original vaccines aren't great at preventing spread of the virus. The current vaccines are pretty good at keeping you out of the hospital and dying. As the virus evolves, the current vaccines will be gradually less effective at this and we are seeing this in the data. New vaccines with broader scope for variants are on the horizon.
-The comparison you mentioned of 40 days post boost versus longer natural immunity is a consequence of the fact that the third shot had only been available for a short period of time when the study was run; longer term boost results weren't available. It (now) seems the third dose provides lasting protection against severe disease, and even to some extent infection, likely comparable to natural immunity. Papers are coming out about this; I've seen preprints and talked to doctors doing the research.

One thing to note when reviewing articles like this is that many biased outlets take things out of context, and write headlines and commentary that are misleading. For example:

"The effectiveness of two doses of BNT162b2 and no previous infection was negligible (−1.1%; 95% CI, −7.1 to 4.6). "

The things is, this was in a paragraph indicating the discussion was specifically talking about immunity to infection, and was not commenting on whether or not two doses helped prevent severe disease. I've seen this exact line used by conspiracy sites to malign the vaccines, when a proper reading of the paper makes it clear two doses can help a lot by keeping people from getting severe disease, and that a third dose is needed to reduce infection.

The last sentence in the paper says it all:

"All five forms of immunity were associated with strong and durable protection against Covid-19–related hospitalization and death. " (two shots of vaccine was among the five forms, along with natural immunity and hybrid).

Stay well! I still enjoy this site as the premier source of camera info. I'll likely be here more since I need to get some new cams soon...
Are you for giving children under 5 the shot?
 

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Major Supermarket Chain Won’t Give COVID-19 Vaccines for Kids Under 5

Florida-based supermarket chain Publix said Tuesday that it will not provide COVID-19 vaccines for children under the age of 5 after authorizations were handed down by federal health agencies.

Spokesperson Hannah Herring told the Tampa Bay Times that the company will not be providing vaccines for kids aged 6 months to 4 years “at this time.” Herring said the company will not be providing an explanation for the decision.

The company’s website says that it will provide COVID-19 vaccines for children aged 5 and older. Publix’s pharmacies are still offering influenza vaccines and other, traditional vaccines for young children, according to its website.

The Epoch Times has contacted Publix, which has the majority of its stores in Florida, for comment.

A spokesperson for CVS told Fox News that the company will offer vaccines for children younger than 5, while Walgreens told Fox 13 in Tampa Bay that children ages 3 and older can receive the vaccine across the United States, including in Florida.

And a spokesperson for Walmart told the Tampa Bay Times that it will give vaccines to kids aged 4 and older.

“While we expect the majority of these vaccines to be distributed to pediatric providers, we plan to administer authorized vaccines for ages 3–5 as supply as distribution allows,” said Walmart spokesperson Tyler Thomason.

More at the link: Major Supermarket Chain Won’t Give COVID-19 Vaccines for Kids Under 5 (theepochtimes.com)
 

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Hi @bigredfish I hope you've been well. I have not been following this thread for over a year but since you tagged me so I would see your note next time I logged in, I took a look at your posts as quoted above.
While I won't be rejoining this thread generally, I'm happy to reply since you asked, or rather suggested, some questions and posited some conclusions. I'm passingly familiar with the NEJM study, which studied folks in Qatar as a small and relatively well documented population, I can offer a few thoughts, highlighting key points:

-The negative immunity for two doses is pretty trivial and likely just a statistical fluke based on inherent difference between people who chose to be vaccinated and those who didn't (age/health/activity difference between the groups). It doesn't REALLY mean that unvaccinated people were better off in terms of getting infected than folks who got two doses (see the confidence interval data). Just, young healthy partygoers who think they are invulnerable and don't need the vaccine tend to be at a higher risk generally. I'm not sure what passes for partying in QATAR though :)
-Just because two doses didn't confer immunity DOES NOT mean two doses didn't help. Those people were at much lower risk of developing severe covid disease, as the paper documents. So, the vaccine worked great in this population to control severe disease, even with just two doses.
-The results reported are not surprising; data broadly similar to this was reported long ago here in the States and was used to develop recommendations for keeping folks boosted; hence the fall boost program and more recently for older folks (including me), a fourth shot.
-Current variants look enough different from the original strain that the original vaccines aren't great at preventing spread of the virus. The current vaccines are pretty good at keeping you out of the hospital and dying. As the virus evolves, the current vaccines will be gradually less effective at this and we are seeing this in the data. New vaccines with broader scope for variants are on the horizon.
-The comparison you mentioned of 40 days post boost versus longer natural immunity is a consequence of the fact that the third shot had only been available for a short period of time when the study was run; longer term boost results weren't available. It (now) seems the third dose provides lasting protection against severe disease, and even to some extent infection, likely comparable to natural immunity. Papers are coming out about this; I've seen preprints and talked to doctors doing the research.

One thing to note when reviewing articles like this is that many biased outlets take things out of context, and write headlines and commentary that are misleading. For example:

"The effectiveness of two doses of BNT162b2 and no previous infection was negligible (−1.1%; 95% CI, −7.1 to 4.6). "

The things is, this was in a paragraph indicating the discussion was specifically talking about immunity to infection, and was not commenting on whether or not two doses helped prevent severe disease. I've seen this exact line used by conspiracy sites to malign the vaccines, when a proper reading of the paper makes it clear two doses can help a lot by keeping people from getting severe disease, and that a third dose is needed to reduce infection.

The last sentence in the paper says it all:

"All five forms of immunity were associated with strong and durable protection against Covid-19–related hospitalization and death. " (two shots of vaccine was among the five forms, along with natural immunity and hybrid).

Stay well! I still enjoy this site as the premier source of camera info. I'll likely be here more since I need to get some new cams soon...
Always love your word salad :rofl:

I suppose you have good rebuttals for the public Canadian and UK stats showing hospitalizations and deaths are and have been since Sept/Oct ‘21 75%-85% jabbed

“The current vaccines are pretty good at keeping you out of the hospital and dying. “
This is right out of the playbook of the Ministry of Truth..yet I never see any data backing it up. The data out there from countries unlike our our own that actually publish ALL of the data clearly show otherwise.
 
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Hi @bigredfish I hope you've been well. I have not been following this thread for over a year but since you tagged me so I would see your note next time I logged in, I took a look at your posts as quoted above.
While I won't be rejoining this thread generally, I'm happy to reply since you asked, or rather suggested, some questions and posited some conclusions. I'm passingly familiar with the NEJM study, which studied folks in Qatar as a small and relatively well documented population, I can offer a few thoughts, highlighting key points:

-The negative immunity for two doses is pretty trivial and likely just a statistical fluke based on inherent difference between people who chose to be vaccinated and those who didn't (age/health/activity difference between the groups). It doesn't REALLY mean that unvaccinated people were better off in terms of getting infected than folks who got two doses (see the confidence interval data). Just, young healthy partygoers who think they are invulnerable and don't need the vaccine tend to be at a higher risk generally. I'm not sure what passes for partying in QATAR though :)
-Just because two doses didn't confer immunity DOES NOT mean two doses didn't help. Those people were at much lower risk of developing severe covid disease, as the paper documents. So, the vaccine worked great in this population to control severe disease, even with just two doses.
-The results reported are not surprising; data broadly similar to this was reported long ago here in the States and was used to develop recommendations for keeping folks boosted; hence the fall boost program and more recently for older folks (including me), a fourth shot.
-Current variants look enough different from the original strain that the original vaccines aren't great at preventing spread of the virus. The current vaccines are pretty good at keeping you out of the hospital and dying. As the virus evolves, the current vaccines will be gradually less effective at this and we are seeing this in the data. New vaccines with broader scope for variants are on the horizon.
-The comparison you mentioned of 40 days post boost versus longer natural immunity is a consequence of the fact that the third shot had only been available for a short period of time when the study was run; longer term boost results weren't available. It (now) seems the third dose provides lasting protection against severe disease, and even to some extent infection, likely comparable to natural immunity. Papers are coming out about this; I've seen preprints and talked to doctors doing the research.

One thing to note when reviewing articles like this is that many biased outlets take things out of context, and write headlines and commentary that are misleading. For example:

"The effectiveness of two doses of BNT162b2 and no previous infection was negligible (−1.1%; 95% CI, −7.1 to 4.6). "

The things is, this was in a paragraph indicating the discussion was specifically talking about immunity to infection, and was not commenting on whether or not two doses helped prevent severe disease. I've seen this exact line used by conspiracy sites to malign the vaccines, when a proper reading of the paper makes it clear two doses can help a lot by keeping people from getting severe disease, and that a third dose is needed to reduce infection.

The last sentence in the paper says it all:

"All five forms of immunity were associated with strong and durable protection against Covid-19–related hospitalization and death. " (two shots of vaccine was among the five forms, along with natural immunity and hybrid).

Stay well! I still enjoy this site as the premier source of camera info. I'll likely be here more since I need to get some new cams soon...

What part isnt clear?

However, individuals who received two doses of the Pfizer and Moderna vaccine but had no previous infection, were found with negative immunity against both BA.1 and BA.2 Omicron subvariants, indicating an increased risk of contracting COVID-19 than an average person.
Over six months after getting two doses of the Pfizer vaccine, immunity against any Omicron infection dropped to -3.4 percent. But for two doses of the Moderna vaccine, immunity against any Omicron infection dropped to -10.3 percent after more than six months since the last injection.
 

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Well I got the Fauchi virus again! First time I got it was the end of 2019. Woke up Monday feeling weird and it progressively got worse. Doctor offered Paxlovid. Each serving comes with two different pills. Didn't have to pay for Paxlovid which I thought was weird..
Reminds me of 20 yrs ago when my doctor prescribed me oxycontin for a hernia. ruined my life for 6 yrs.
 
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