Some idiot keeps adding cameras...

[Ssayer]

Ok, I've got 34 cams and 3 blank cams with images from Siteshoter (plus 2 more USB cams when I'm running my 3D Printer), and I'm thinking about adding a couple more cams. I think my I7-3770 is getting a little upset with me. It's not just the cams, it's all the tablets that are viewing them as well. When I only have say... 3 tablets viewing, my CPU is normally around... 38%. But, when I have them all going, it's around 65%. The clunker seems to be when you toss in fog or a bright, partly cloudy, windy day. That poor CPU maxes out too much. I'd like to try AI on 3 or 4 of the cams, but it just isn't going to happen with the hardware I currently use.

So... I've read the Wiki obviously. I've run BI for many years. I7-8700 with 16GB ram is the recommended bang for the buck. I only want to do this once (right, eh? ). Any thoughts/opinions or should i just go with the recommended?

 

[TonyR]

Sound like a logical path to me.....just go with Win 11 Pro. I'm a bigger fan of Win 10 but MS support for 10 will end Oct. 2025.

And I'm positive that as a IPCT veteran of 8 years and a Wiki reader you'll put Windows, BI and BI's "db" folder on a SSD and the video clips on 1 or more HDD's, preferably surveillance-rated.

 

[bp2008]

I would say i7-8700 is a modest upgrade. It is a few generations of minor performance uplifts (intel was lazy back then) and 2 more cores than you have now. Goes for around $140. Dell Precision Tower 3431 PC 3.20GHz Core i7-8700 16GB RAM No HDD/SSD | eBay

But if you are willing to spend more, then about $480 can get you a refurbished lenovo with i7-13700 which is a massive improvement and will last you a lot longer and give you a lot more room for running AI workloads on CPU.

I7-13700 in Desktops & All-In-Ones for sale | eBay

www.ebay.com

Benchmark comparison:

Intel Core i7-13700 vs Intel Core i7-8700 @ 3.20GHz vs Intel Core i7-3770 @ 3.40GHz [cpubenchmark.net] by PassMark Software

 

[Ssayer]

Thank you. That's about what I was thinking but didn't want to simply toss money away for nothing.

 

[Ssayer]

Ok, took a while for money to clear (thank you Silver!!!), but I finally ordered it:

Lenovo IdeaCentre 5 14IRB8 Desktop Intel Core i7-13700 16GB Ram 512GB SSD W11H


Thank you @TonyR and @bp2008 for your inputs.

 

[bp2008]

I hope you got it for the ~$480 price! I don't see any left on ebay at a price like that anymore.

 

[Ssayer]

Better than that. eBay offered an extra 9% off! (I got the last one)

 

[bp2008]

Nice!

 

[StevenFromTexas]

Ok, I've got 34 cams . . .

I feel like a total loser. I've only got 16 cameras.

 

[Ssayer]

@StevenFromTexas: Haha, it's not just the cams, it's also the convenience of viewing them. That's where all the tablets come in.

 

[Ssayer]

The guy has those I7-13700 computers back in stock again. I still see eBay's extra 9% off offer. Mine will be here sometime today.

 

[Heavyopp]

The guy has those I7-13700 computers back in stock again. I still see eBay's extra 9% off offer. Mine will be here sometime today.

Seller?

 

[Ssayer]

@Heavyopp See the 3rd post in this thread by @bp2008

The seller is buyrefurbishedus

 

[Heavyopp]

Saw it earlier, just making sure that was it. I need a rig for world of tanks.

 

[Ssayer]

Ok, I got it the other day. It is what it says it is. I simply ran it for a day using UI3 in Firefox with no issues. Yesterday I set up BI on it, made the necessary changes, transferred the key and let it rip. I set it up exactly the way the old computer was running it (and the extras). Task Manager was showing BI on the old box at around 65% CPU and shows BI on this box at around 13% CPU. Funny thing is, BI on the old box showed pretty much exactly what it showed in Task Manager. On this box, BI shows 0% to 1% CPU. It's probably the change from Win10 on the old one and Win11 on the new one, but what do I know.

I'll still let it run for a few days before I go messing with AI or whatever.

One more thing, just for S&G, I'm trying simply ZeroTier out without Vultr. It takes 3 extra clicks to get ZeroTier going to run BI and then 3 extra clicks to shut down ZeroTier when I'm done checking BI on my phone or tablet when I'm out. Seems simple enough but I'll pay for an extra month of Vultr just to keep the server there (turned off) to make sure I'm happy with only ZeroTier. I'm guessing I will be but I won't cheap out while I'm testing...

 

[spend2much]

I need to figure out a better setup for myself, that's a lot of cameras going on that rig, I hate to admit this, but I am using an NVR due to having 28 cameras and not being able to get them all working together properly. I need to start over and try again.

 

[Flintstone61]

Are there any regrets about having Windows 11 Home? or is it running Pro?

 

[Flintstone61]

I like the full tower Precision model with room for full sized spinning drives and full sized graphics cards.

Dell Precision 3640 Tower i7-10700 32GB 512GB M.2 W11 Pro Onboard Video | eBay

Dell Precision 3640 Tower i7-10700 32GB 512GB M.2 W11 Pro. Total Solid State Drive Capacity: 512GB M.2. Processor Type: Core i7. Form Factor: Tower. Wireless LAN: No. Product Family: Precision. Product Line: Precision.

www.ebay.com

 

[Ssayer]

Seller?

I need to figure out a better setup for myself, that's a lot of cameras going on that rig, I hate to admit this, but I am using an NVR due to having 28 cameras and not being able to get them all working together properly. I need to start over and try again.

For sure Blue Iris will handle them even on a lowly i7-3770. It's mostly a matter of sub-streams and frame-rates...

Are there any regrets about having Windows 11 Home? or is it running Pro?

It has 11 Pro. The only things I have yet to figure out from Win10 to Win11 is 1: Why is the CPU not registering properly in BI and 2: A good alternate for "Turn-Off Monitor" which works flawlessly in Win10 while Win11 turns the monitor back on after a few seconds. (I haven't touched AI yet, but will get to it as time allows)

 

[Ssayer]

I like the full tower Precision model with room for full sized spinning drives and full sized graphics cards.

Dell Precision 3640 Tower i7-10700 32GB 512GB M.2 W11 Pro Onboard Video | eBay

Dell Precision 3640 Tower i7-10700 32GB 512GB M.2 W11 Pro. Total Solid State Drive Capacity: 512GB M.2. Processor Type: Core i7. Form Factor: Tower. Wireless LAN: No. Product Family: Precision. Product Line: Precision.

www.ebay.com

Looks decent. Only thing is the i7-10700 instead of the i7-13700 which I went with at the advice of @bp2008 (which is someone I'll always listen to! )