Will these work for BI and x cams

[Firefighter]

Hey yall, So I'm looking to get a desktop to use strictly as my BI machine.

There are several Optiplex computers being sold locally by the metro government for 10-40 bucks.

Optiplex 7040 ( says from 2016 but doesnt say I5 lor I7 etc....

Optiplex 7020 sff I5

Should I stay clear since they are already 7 years old. Or would they be worth picking up.

Looking for probably 16 total cameras, up to 4k

 

[wittaj]

For $10 to $40 bucks it is worth it LOL.

The 7020 is probably a 4th gen and the 7040 is probably a 6th gen.

With the substreams option, we have folks here running 50 cameras on a 4th gen at 30% CPU.

 

[Firefighter]

Yeah I figured for the price it's worth the gamble! Doesn't come with HD's or windows but I can install that. I wouldn't mind spending a few hundred on a machine that
I knew would do the job, but if I could pick one of these up and make it worth and have the same amount in it with several survail. HD's then i figured it would be worth it.

Also, Correct me if Im wrong. I assume live streams set at substream allowing actual recording to be the only thing eating up CPU capital correct?
Actual recording would be full res allowing play back at full res once moved to another machine. Correct?

 

[mat200]

Hey yall, So I'm looking to get a desktop to use strictly as my BI machine.

There are several Optiplex computers being sold locally by the metro government for 10-40 bucks.

Optiplex 7040 ( says from 2016 but doesnt say I5 lor I7 etc....

Optiplex 7020 sff I5

Should I stay clear since they are already 7 years old. Or would they be worth picking up.

Looking for probably 16 total cameras, up to 4k

definitely good deal in my book: Optiplex 7040 $10-40 .. I'd pick up at least 2 ..

 

[bp2008]

Yeah I figured for the price it's worth the gamble! Doesn't come with HD's or windows but I can install that. I wouldn't mind spending a few hundred on a machine that
I knew would do the job, but if I could pick one of these up and make it worth and have the same amount in it with several survail. HD's then i figured it would be worth it.

Also, Correct me if Im wrong. I assume live streams set at substream allowing actual recording to be the only thing eating up CPU capital correct?
Actual recording would be full res allowing play back at full res once moved to another machine. Correct?

The way sub streams are intended to be used in BI is, you feed BI both the main and sub stream. BI does all realtime video processing and multi-camera live viewing with the sub stream, because it is cheaper that way. When you maximize a single camera, you get the main stream. No need to export it to a different machine first.

BI records both streams. Although it can be configured to NOT record the sub stream to save a little space, this is generally a bad idea if you ever want to use the timeline to play multiple clips at once, because multiple main streams at once is very CPU intensive. That was Blue Iris's most crippling weakness for the last 10 years before it started properly supporting sub streams; it was having to process all those main streams all the time and the ridiculous CPU requirements that created. Now it is no longer holding us back as long as we configure all the cameras with sub streams too.

 

[Firefighter]

Thanks yall, I have some bids in on 3 of them.

Later this week they have a dozen 7050's and I see that those are 2018 model so I'd much rather get one or two of those so we'll see.

 

[Firefighter]

Question!
So, they closed and went for 112.
There are still some 7040 and 7050 left that ends in a few days. Let's they don't have hdd and os system, what would they be worth?

Would $150 be too much for the 7050 as example. If not I'll bid that high and see if I can get em. Or 200?

Also, there's one Precision 7920,

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Thanks

Here's the 7040 that sold for 112

 

[Firefighter]

UPDATE!!
I won two 7020 at like 30 bucks each and
Two 7050 which I couldn't confirm but I hope are i7s. They should at least be I5s....
Got those for about $70 each.

I. Good with the price and hope I can throw a few updates on the 7050s and use one for my BI rig and the other as my main computer for a couple years.

I'm not sure what I'll do with the 7020s.
My wife doesn't have a computer so maybe that. We'll see.

Pretty stoked I got the 7050's though!

There's more but I'd have no use for them. Lol

 

[Firefighter]

Alright boys, picked em up. All I5s. Unfortunately no i7s.

 

[Flintstone61]

At least they weren't i3's....
You can maybe find an i7 used if you think you need one.

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[Flintstone61]

I'm running an i5-4590 as my daily driver. ( optiplex 9020 MT) taking 9 streams from the NVR and a wifi Door bell.
And I do all my Web surfing on it.
I bought an i7-8700 Dell Precision 3630 for the future to run BI and Win 11, blah blah, blah, quack quack , quack.

 

[Firefighter]

Lol yeah. The i5s will be fine. A 7th gen i5 will be plenty to run my cameras.
I would like to live stream a camera or 2 to YouTube. I'm not sure if I should use one of the 7020s for that or if its safe to do on the main BI machine.

I still haven't opened them up yet to see
what all is inside.
Still think for less than 100 on the 7050s it was a good deal. So we'll see.

 

[Flintstone61]

yeah, are they SFF's or MT's?
ebay shows 7050 SFF's from $199 to $299 roughly. with ram and a some kid of hard drive to run windows.
Not that they'd be good enough to be Hard drives used for BI. but it'd be a start.

 

[Firefighter]

SFF but not the little mini micro ones.
It's the smaller of these two

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I'll tear into them tomorrow and find out exactly what I'm working with. It was a gamble. I figured I'd need to install SSDs, HDs, and ram.

 

[Firefighter]

So here's a little update.
The 7050s have an 7th gen I5 7500 in them with re installed 8gb 2400mhz ram with 4 slots for a maximum of 64gb ram. 16x4.

My plan is to have 16 minimum, but how much of a role does ram play into the BI setup? I have no problem maxing out the 64gb if I need to. Especially since I plan on having a few live streams being fed to YouTube as well.

Going to use a m.2 for the boot drive and then the case can handle 1 3.5" drive and 2 2.5" drives.

 

[wittaj]

Most of us have 16GB and do just fine. I have more cameras than I care to admit to LOL and BI is rarely over 2.5 and total is around 6

 

[Firefighter]

Most of us have 16GB and do just fine. I have more cameras than I care to admit to LOL and BI is rarely over 2.5 and total is around 6

Sounds good thanks.
I'm going to throw the windows and applications on an m.2

Looking forward to getting this going

 

[Firefighter]

Just bought a 500gb m.2 for the main boot and applications.

Really looking forward to getting back into BI

 

[Firefighter]

Well, I'm going to have to stop. lol

Just won a Dell Opltiplex 7060 on govdeals. So it's an 8th gen instead of the 6/7th gen.

Ive been using one of the 7050s as my main, finally got it going last week. has 16gb ram, i5 etc.

So now the plan is,
I'll use the 7060 as my main computer
7050 #1 will be my Blue Iris Computer
7050 #2 will be my wifes main computer
The 7020's I have no clue, Maybe I'll use one with a seperate BI because I wan to live stream the chicken coop. Maybe make those on their own machine? Would that be a good idea to have them separate.