Swann Cameras with HIKVision DVR

[grendel54]

Ok,

So I had a Swann SWHDK-882004 system with 6 cameras (BNC). It came with a HDR8-8200 DVR but after awhile the DVR just stopped working. Nothing would come on the screen. The DVR would power up, harddrives would spin but nothing would ouput to monitor. I finally gave in an d bought a new HIK Vision DS-7200 on the recommendation of someone. I put the harddrive from the swann system in it and fired it up. The control panel showed uo but when I plugged in cameras (Swann SHD-870) nothing worked. All the screens said No Video. I am at a loss. Any suggestions?

 

[alastairstevenson]

The control panel showed uo but when I plugged in cameras (Swann SHD-870) nothing worked. All the screens said No Video. I am at a loss. Any suggestions?

I think you've fallen foul of incompatible standards between manufacturers.
And Swann in particular are all over the place (apart from the OEM products) in terms of how proprietary their products are.

In the analogue world there are 4 or 5 different standards that have been developed and promoted by different groups of manufacturers.
As is typical with Swann tech specs - I could not see from published data what standard your cameras support, if any.

And your Hikvision DVR model number isn't complete enough to find what standards it supports.

 

[grendel54]

The cameras are Swann SHD-870's. The DVR is a HIKvision H.265+ Turbo HD DVR 4k HDMI

This one...

https://www.amazon.com/Hikvision-H-265-TURBO-supports-included/dp/B076FHKBX1?pd_rd_w=fo642&pf_rd_p=0fc3f2c4-3ed5-4d11-9995-8d7c82394713&pf_rd_r=H5D4Y1KQ6123BMZKEK2S&pd_rd_r=c97c9366-c820-47c8-9764-687ee342bcf1&pd_rd_wg=4ctEI&ref_=pd_gw_cr_simh

I can return the DVR and get one that is compatible. Swann says they dont support the HDR8-8200 anymore and they want us to return the whole system and buy another. There has to be another option. All the cameras, as far as I know, are in working condition. They are also already installed.

 

[alastairstevenson]

The DVR is a HIKvision H.265+ Turbo HD DVR 4k HDMI

The model number in the Amazon listing suggests the DVR is a DS-7208HUHI-K1
If that's accurate, this is a 4-in-1 multi-standard DVR that supports the de-facto analogue standards.

Support HDTVI input: 8 MP, 5 MP, 4 MP, 3 MP, 1080p30, 1080p25, 720p60, 720p50, 720p30, 720p25
Support AHD input: 5 MP, 4 MP, 1080p25, 1080p30, 720p25, 720p30
Support CVI input: 4 MP, 1080p25, 1080p30, 720p25, 720p30
Support CVBS input

That's a good model of DVR in terms of multiple standards support.
So the odd one out is going to be the Swann cameras with its SDI only support.

 

[alastairstevenson]

the DVR just stopped working

What might be easy enough to check is if the 12V power supply has failed.
If so, that could be an easy fix.

By the way - looking at the specs for the DVR, it's an SDI analogue standard model.

 

[grendel54]

Thank you for the help. It was rather strange that all settings for BNC said analog, which I thought thats what they just called the BNC style connector. I tested the power supply on the Swann. It was getting power and everything seemed to be working, It just wasn't outputting video. I bought another power supply and tried it to no avail. That is a hard power supply to find. It is the four pin and it is 5amps.

I guess I should return the DVR and get one that is for sure SDI digital. Any suggestions on which DVR to use with these cameras?

 

[alastairstevenson]

Did you check the voltage internally in the DVR while powered on, in case there is a short circuit in the DVR board?
A couple of months back I bought a 'spares and repairs' Swann DVR which had a shorted surge protector bringing the power supply down. Removed that and the device worked again.

 

[grendel54]

i only tested the power supply itself which was working. Weather or not it was delivering enough power is another question. Swann tech support said this is common but I couldn't find another 5amp power supply that would work with it.

 

[alastairstevenson]

Suggestion, then:
You've confirmed the power supply provides 12V when not loaded.
Take the lid off the DVR and check that 12V is still being provided when the power supply is connected and the DVR is powered on.
A convenient and easily accessible place to do this is on the power connector for the HDD, at the board end.

 

[grendel54]

I need to move forward with another DVR at this point. Do you know one that is compatible with the cameras I have? I will then revisit the swann DVR after I get this one working.

 

[alastairstevenson]

Sorry, but I'm not familiar enough with SDI DVRs to recommend a model.
Hopefully though another forum member may be able to offer some useful advice.

 

[fenderman]

I need to move forward with another DVR at this point. Do you know one that is compatible with the cameras I have? I will then revisit the swann DVR after I get this one working.

hikvision only has 2 sdi nvr's models still available. 7300 and 7200. These are both old models for about 2013. They are no longer pursuing SDI. I would replace the entire setup including cams otherwise you will be stuck with this old gear. The newer cameras are available with larger sensors producing much better low light and night images.

 

[grendel54]

I bought the Hik Vision DS-7208HUHI-K1 shouldn't this support these cameras? I would rather use the existing cameras if nothing is wrong with them. There has to be a DVR that works with these.

 

[alastairstevenson]

From the Hikvision specifications:
Support HDTVI input: 8 MP, 5 MP, 4 MP, 3 MP, 1080p30, 1080p25, 720p60, 720p50, 720p30, 720p25
Support AHD input: 5 MP, 4 MP, 1080p25, 1080p30, 720p25, 720p30
Support CVI input: 4 MP, 1080p25, 1080p30, 720p25, 720p30
Support CVBS input

 

[bigredfish]

Support for SDI seems to have all but dried up.

Those cameras are last generation analog with older 1/3 cmos sensors, they arent great. You would need a DVR that specifically supports SDI format, the HiK DVR you bought will not.

 

[bigredfish]

If possible, Id return the whole mess, assuming you have cable already ran, switch to Dahua HDCVI equipment. Much more current, rivals their IP cameras. They have DVR/XVR's that will allow you to run the CVI cameras as well as IP cameras if you choose down the road to run Cat5 cable.
HDCVI Cameras

 

[grendel54]

Support for SDI seems to have all but dried up.

Those cameras are last generation analog with older 1/3 cmos sensors, they arent great. You would need a DVR that specifically supports SDI format, the HiK DVR you bought will not.

Are they analog or digital because I work in production and SDI cannot send analog signal.

SDI is digital and the DVR I bought says that it supports that resolution.

 

[alastairstevenson]

SDI is digital and the DVR I bought says that it supports that resolution.

It's not so much the resolution, though that is important, it's the ability to understand and decode/encode the format of the video signal, whether it be analogue or serial digital (eg SDI) in form.

 

[grendel54]

ok so the cameras i have are SDI or analogue?

 

[alastairstevenson]

ok so the cameras i have are SDI or analogue?

I don't quite understand the question.
There are multiple analogue standards.
And multiple digital standards.
It's been stated that the cameras use the SDI video format.
The Swann data sheet for the cameras shows they are SDI : https://www.swann.com/downloads/product/2306shd_870_brochure.pdf

Whether they are SDI or analogue - you still need a DVR that is compatible with the video standard they produce.
As has been stated, the Hikvision DVR you purchased does not support the SDI video standard produced by the cameras.