IPC-T5442T-ZE

[rfj]

Is the IPC-T5442T-ZE still the best camera for under $200 or should I consider a different one? I want to replace my HikVision DS-2CD3132 with something better. Actually, I might continue using the HiVison cams for overview and install other cams (that work much better in low light) to zoom into areas of interest. I would use something like

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07HSN5YSK/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

to have two cams at the same location. The main problem I am trying to address is getting good images when police stops by (they did a couple of times but I couldn't get them any images that would help them).

 

[wittaj]

That is a great camera, but more info is needed. How close are the subjects you want to IDENTIFY?

Take a look at this Post I made with the current recommendations for cameras based on distance:

The Importance of Focal Length over MP in camera selection

At the urging of several folks here, I created a thread to show the importance of focal length and how focal length can be more important than megapixels (MP). I mentioned some of this in the post regarding The Hookup’s latest video demonstrating different cameras, including one sold from a...

ipcamtalk.com

 

[rfj]

Thanks. I will check that link. Subjects are probably about 20-25 feet away. Our property is only about 1/6 of an acre. Our front yard is maybe 25-30 feet and I don't much care about the first 5 feet. Hence the about 20-25 feet.

 

[samplenhold]

For that distance you can't go wrong on the T5442T-ZE varifocal.

Bigger question is are you using a Hik NVR or are you using something like BlueIris?

 

[rfj]

For that distance you can't go wrong on the T5442T-ZE varifocal.

Bigger question is are you using a Hik NVR or are you using something like BlueIris?

I am using BlueIris. Does this make a difference compared to a HikVision NVR? I could hook up all my cams to a dedicated NVR but I prefer to use a PC with BI as it appears to give me more flexibility. Note that I also have some other cams inside the house like WansView, etc.

 

[samplenhold]

The concern was that since you stated you had Hik cams, and if you had a Hik NVR, the Dahua cams may not play well with the Hik NVR. Since you are using BI, then no compatibility issues would arise.

 

[rfj]

Thanks for the clarification. I will go with the T5442T-ZE to replace/augment my HikVision cams.

 

[rfj]

How does this compare to something like 8MP ePoE Starlight+ Vari-focal Network Eyeball Camera

Oh, it seems this one is like $400 which is WAY over my budget.

 

[samplenhold]

How does this compare to something like 8MP ePoE Starlight+ Vari-focal Network Eyeball Camera

Oh, it seems this one like $400 which is WAY over my budget.

That cam has twice the pixels of the 5442 but on the same 1/1.8" sensor. So in low light it will not perform as well as the 5442.

 

[weigle2]

How does this compare to something like 8MP ePoE Starlight+ Vari-focal Network Eyeball Camera

Oh, it seems this one is like $400 which is WAY over my budget.

What? Um, no. The 5842 from Andy is only $50 more than the 5442T-ZE. Andy is the best vendor I've ever dealt with and many of us on IPCT would not buy from anyone else.

https://www.amazon.com/EmpireTech-2-7mm-12-0mm-Vari-Focal-IPC-T5842T-ZE-IPC-HDW5831R-ZE/dp/B09JFW767F/ref=sr_1_4?imprToken=eNnu.Pmf5hsW5hcTVECAQg&linkCode=w61&m=A329YQ83EBQGJF&marketplaceID=ATVPDKIKX0DER&qid=1650884879&redirect=true&s=merchant-items&slotNum=0&sr=1-4

 

[wittaj]

Yep, no reason to purchase from anyone other than @EMPIRETECANDY

 

[sebastiantombs]

The 5842 is an 8MP camera while the 5442 is a 4MP camera. Both use the same sensor size. That means the 5842 needs roughly twice as much light to produce the same picture as the 5442 produces at night. It would be fine with enough light, but even then the 5442 would out perform it at night, the most critical time.

 

[rfj]

My HikVision work reasonably well during daytime but they are bad when it is dark. I have one 5442 and it performs a lot better. I guess the 5442 is still the way to go. I just wanted to check there isn't anything that performs even better or that could be automated to work at a higher resolution when it is bright and at a lower resolution when it is darker, etc.

As I said, I might continue to use the Hikvision as overview cams and use the 5442 for a closer (static) look using a https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07HSN5YSK/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 I

 

[rfj]

This is kind of over my budget but it is 8k (not that I care too much about that) and F1.4 (SOUNDS better than the 1.8), varifocal (2.8-12mm), turret, PoE

8 MP WDR Vari-Focal Network Turret Camera

Hikvision’s DS-2CD2H85FWD-IZS provides important new technology for any security application. The H.265+ codec assures savings in bandwidth and storage. High quality and high resolution images are assured with the 8 MP (3840 x 2160) image sensor.

us.hikvision.com

 

[Mike A.]

This is kind of over my budget but it is 8k (not that I care too much about that) and F1.4 (SOUNDS better than the 1.8), varifocal (2.8-12mm), turret, PoE

8 MP WDR Vari-Focal Network Turret Camera

Hikvision’s DS-2CD2H85FWD-IZS provides important new technology for any security application. The H.265+ codec assures savings in bandwidth and storage. High quality and high resolution images are assured with the 8 MP (3840 x 2160) image sensor.

us.hikvision.com

That's an 8MP cam on a 1/2.5 sensor and only gets down to 0.01 lux. Not that great for low-light performance.

The 5442 uses a 1/1.8 sensor and gets down to 0.003 lux color/0.0003 IR @ F1.8. Much better.

The 5842 also uses a 1/1.8 sensor and gets down to 0.004 lux color/0.0004 IR @ F1.4. Also better.

 

[EMPIRETECANDY]

Yes, the 4K one right now work bit good if has good budget.

Worlds First Review - Dahua DH-IPC-HDW5842T-ZE-S2 / IPC-T5842T-ZE - 8MP / 4K Vari-Focal Turret | IP Cam Talk

 

[rfj]

How do those numbers like 5442 and 5842 translate to Dahua numbers like N85DJ6Z, A82AH5V, etc (see attachment)?

I used the camera selector on the Dahua website and the only turret cameras (they seem to call them eyeball cameras) that came up were 4k cams, i.e. nothing like the 5442.

Camera Selector

us.dahuasecurity.com

The A82AH5V is more intriguing because of the SNR of 65 vs the 56dB on the N85DJ6Z. The sensor size, max aperture, etc. are pretty much the same on both cams so I am not sure why the SNR would be so different.

 

[EMPIRETECANDY]

 

[EMPIRETECANDY]

A82AH5V this one is a analog camera, not IP
N85DJ6Z same as IPC-T5842T-ZE

 

[wittaj]

How do those numbers like 5442 and 5842 translate to Dahua numbers like N85DJ6Z, A82AH5V, etc (see attachment)?

I used the camera selector on the Dahua website and the only turret cameras (they seem to call them eyeball cameras) that came up were 4k cams, i.e. nothing like the 5442.

Camera Selector

us.dahuasecurity.com

The A82AH5V is more intriguing because of the SNR of 65 vs the 56dB on the N85DJ6Z. The sensor size, max aperture, etc. are pretty much the same on both cams so I am not sure why the SNR would be so different.

The camera selector you are looking at are US version cameras. Andy sells international version cameras.

Obviously some are identical just drastically different numbers, but for the most part the international versions are better cameras than what US authorized dealers will sell.