Ethernet POE samsung DVR not recognizing hard drive, switch to a BNC?

[greek2meNetcatCamptz2084]

Hello everyone:
I have a rather dated system It's samsung POE, uses ethernet wires for each camera. I have 5/8 connected. My 1T hard drive apparently ran out of space. I did get it to format but it now says "no hdd installed." I have actually got it to recognize the seagate hard drive since the format but only for a few minutes. I assume it's the dvr and not the harddrive because i also connected a 2T external hard drive that is only recognized when the internal is recognized. If I could fix the samsung dvr, I would be all for it, but my issue is that when looking at replacements, everything is bnc. Is there a switch or convertor that i can use to hook into a bnc dvr. I found "convertors" on the internet, I just wanted to check here so I could get some solid suggestions and hoping you guys will give me some options.
TIA

 

[fenderman]

Why in the world do you want to go backwards. There are a plethora of ip nvr options.

 

[greek2meNetcatCamptz2084]

I want to keep my POE cabling but the dvr's that I am looking at are all bnc. The dvr that I have now has 16 ethernet plugs but it's going belly up. How can I keep the wiring I have now and use a dvr with bnc connectors? or I need an affordable solution.

 

[fenderman]

I want to keep my POE cabling but the dvr's that I am looking at are all bnc. The dvr that I have now has 16 ethernet plugs but it's going belly up. How can I keep the wiring I have now and use a dvr with bnc connectors? or I need an affordable solution.

Your problem is that you are searching for a DVR but what you need is an NVR. Why in the world would you want to go backwards.

 

[greek2meNetcatCamptz2084]

I want to keep my POE cabling but the dvr's that I am looking at are all bnc. The dvr that I have now has 16 ethernet plugs but it's going belly up. How can I keep the wiring I have now and use a dvr with bnc connectors? or I need an affordable solution.

Can i use dvr w/bnc

Your problem is that you are searching for a DVR but what you need is an NVR. Why in the world would you want to go backwards.

I dont really have it "nvr" I have it hooked into my tv. It's not on my network. I really don't want to change anything except the dvr/nvr(and add a switch, if necessary. Can I hook up an Nvr to the tv via hdmi or rca or is it a "network" having to use a router. I apologize for my ignorance to all of this. Thanks for your help-I only know what I have done in my personal experience which isn't a lot.
Let em ask this if i had a dvr with bnc channels and wanted to run it with ethernet poe cables to ethernet poe cams, how could i do it? Do all nvr's have ethernet plugs for each channel?

 

[fenderman]

Can i use dvr w/bnc

I dont really have it "nvr" I have it hooked into my tv. It's not on my network. I really don't want to change anything except the dvr/nvr(and add a switch, if necessary. Can I hook up an Nvr to the tv via hdmi or rca or is it a "network" having to use a router. I apologize for my ignorance to all of this. Thanks for your help-I only know what I have done in my personal experience which isn't a lot.
Let em ask this if i had a dvr with bnc channels and wanted to run it with ethernet poe cables to ethernet poe cams, how could i do it? Do all nvr's have ethernet plugs for each channel?

you need to start reading and understanding what you are talking about. of course you can plug an NVR into your tv via hdmi.
what is the EXACT model of your current dvr or nvr. Some systems while using ethernet cable are actually analog.

 

[greek2meNetcatCamptz2084]

I have a samsung dvr sde-5001n from 2012. It's a dvr that uses ethernet cabling. That's why I am here asking questions. I don't want to buy something I cant use.

 

[OICU2]

Looks like the DVR unit itself is IP capable but the cams are not standard IP POE and use the UTP/ethernet just for power and transmission of composite video. I am not familiar with those type of systems therefore I cannot recommend a direct replacement. Depending on your budget, you may want to dump it all together and upgrade to a newer true POE and IP based NVR/cameras.

 

[greek2meNetcatCamptz2084]

Looks like the DVR unit itself is IP capable but the cams are not standard IP POE and use the UTP/ethernet just for power and transmission of composite video. I am not familiar with those type of systems therefore I cannot recommend a direct replacement. Depending on your budget, you may want to dump it all together and upgrade to a newer true POE and IP based NVR/cameras.

Hopefully the brighter side is my wiring is already in place. Thank you.

 

[greek2meNetcatCamptz2084]

Looks like the DVR unit itself is IP capable but the cams are not standard IP POE and use the UTP/ethernet just for power and transmission of composite video. I am not familiar with those type of systems therefore I cannot recommend a direct replacement. Depending on your budget, you may want to dump it all together and upgrade to a newer true POE and IP based NVR/cameras.

Will my standard cameras connected with poe ethernet cabling work with an nvr ? I would like to dump/replace ....budget is my issue.

 

[OICU2]

Will my standard cameras connected with poe ethernet cabling work with an nvr ? I would like to dump/replace ....budget is my issue.

No, I do not think your current cameras are compatible because they are not IP or true POE. Your existing ethernet cabling itself may work if its CAT5/e and the RJ45 ends are wired the same straight through to each end.

 

[fenderman]

RJ45 ends are wired the same straight through to each end.

They not only have to be wired the same, but the must be wired to the 568 standard.

 

[TonyR]

According to the User Manual specs here, the camera is 12VDC over the Cat-5, so it's not standard POE (802.3af).
It's also a dismal 520TVL resolution (680 x 512).

The DVR can host up to 16 cameras but as stated also by @OICU2 , it's composite video (analog) over the CAT-5.
It too has dismal resolution, 704 x 480.

I would not waste time or money on it, you'll be very disappointed with the results.

As stated by @fenderman, if your existing cables are wired to T-568B spec on BOTH ends, you've got a good head start. I'd test them with a cheap tester like this to confirm the visual inspection.

 

[greek2meNetcatCamptz2084]

According to the User Manual specs here, the camera is 12VDC over the Cat-5, so it's not standard POE (802.3af).
It's also a dismal 520TVL resolution (680 x 512).

The DVR can host up to 16 cameras but as stated also by @OICU2 , it's composite video (analog) over the CAT-5.
It too has dismal resolution, 704 x 480.

I would not waste time or money on it, you'll be very disappointed with the results.

As stated by @fenderman, if your existing cables are wired to T-568B spec on BOTH ends, you've got a good head start. I'd test them with a cheap tester like this to confirm the visual inspection.

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Thanks for the diagram and the clarification. When recording video, I have to split the quality between the cams....so next I will look at what's for sale on here. It's either that or go to Sam's club. Thanks everyone.

 

[TonyR]

Thanks for the diagram and the clarification. When recording video, I have to split the quality between the cams....so next I will look at what's for sale on here. It's either that or go to Sam's club. Thanks everyone.

Be sure to read the Wiki up at the top and pay special attention to the Cliff Notes; you'll gain valuable insight!

One more thing: insure those existing cables are solid (not stranded) pure copper (not CCA/Copper Clad Aluminum) with a jacket rated for the purpose (example: if in wall, crawl space, attic and/or between floors, use at least a CMR-rated jacket).

 

[greek2meNetcatCamptz2084]

Be sure to read the Wiki up at the top and pay special attention to the Cliff Notes; you'll gain valuable insight!

One more thing: insure those existing cables are solid (not stranded) pure copper (not CCA/Copper Clad Aluminum) with a jacket rated for the purpose (example: if in wall, crawl space, attic and/or between floors, use at least a CMR-rated jacket).

According to the User Manual specs here, the camera is 12VDC over the Cat-5, so it's not standard POE (802.3af).
It's also a dismal 520TVL resolution (680 x 512).

The DVR can host up to 16 cameras but as stated also by @OICU2 , it's composite video (analog) over the CAT-5.
It too has dismal resolution, 704 x 480.

I would not waste time or money on it, you'll be very disappointed with the results.

As stated by @fenderman, if your existing cables are wired to T-568B spec on BOTH ends, you've got a good head start. I'd test them with a cheap tester like this to confirm the visual inspection.

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My cables have the first five wires only. At least I can use them to help fish the new ones through...