bethzur
Getting the hang of it
Yes, but for my application, I'm not really concerned about size.
Christmas Sales 2021
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Flintstone61
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Size doesnt matter?
EMPIRETECANDY
IPCT Vendor
There will have a 1/1.2 cmos monster ptz will be released at Q2 2022, a new one, but not full color.
Full color for long range i don't think can have in short time, we tried on turret, but the lens board bit big, can't hold into the turret one, the only way to do it to enlarge the size of the cam, or do a cheaper full color model, but will be not as strong as the bullet one. Right now the chips also supply very bad, we also have very limited stocks for this IPC-Color4K-X.
Full color for long range i don't think can have in short time, we tried on turret, but the lens board bit big, can't hold into the turret one, the only way to do it to enlarge the size of the cam, or do a cheaper full color model, but will be not as strong as the bullet one. Right now the chips also supply very bad, we also have very limited stocks for this IPC-Color4K-X.
Parley
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Do not cheap out on the camera. Have Dahua do it right. I am in the market for a good varifocal bullet camera with the 1/1.2" sensor or larger. I have a few that I would like to upgrade. 
I'm guessing Dahua would like to re-use the same housing as the 5442/ZE to keep expenses and production time low. I already think the ZE is a bit large, but still worth tolerating given the sleek look of the turret format and the advantages of the varifocal feature. Unfortunately in the future we'll all probably have to come to terms of the turrets having a larger footprint if we want to reap the benefits of low light/no light image quality in the turret format unless new technology methods are invented.
I am curious to know the dimensions the turret would need to be to support a 1/1.2" sensor (non-varifocal).
TechieTech
Getting the hang of it
Andy, any word on MP, sensor size, zoom, auto tracking, and ballpark cost on that new monster PTZ scheduled Q2? Seeing if I should hold out or just get another SD49225XA-HNR sooner. 
EMPIRETECANDY
IPCT Vendor
Will have a 1/1.2cmos ultra Big PTZ with 40X zoom. 4K. But price will be bit high.
Parley
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Andy, will this be the one to replace the SD8A820WA and that size? I was hoping it would be size of the DH-SD5A425XA-HNR or maybe slightly larger in the "6" series at most.
EMPIRETECANDY
IPCT Vendor
Yes, will be 8 series. Next week we will have the news for the 2022 new product plan.
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But why is that Hikvision already have the DS-2CD2387G2-L(U) 8 MP ColorVu Fixed Turret model Camera available already, and it doesn't seem to look that big at all. Although I bought one Color4K-X already, but love to get some turret version of Color4K-X if available.There is a proposed 4k PTZ on the 1/1.2" sensor, but no proposed turret at this point.
DahuaWiki
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Hikvision has had an 8MP on the 1/1.2" sensor out longer than Dahua has, so they have had more time to design, formulate, revamp and revise.
Dahua may or may not follow suit.
By some accounts, folks feel the Hikvision 8MP isn't as good as the 4K/X. That is probably subjective and vendor biased in some reviews, but if there is truth to that, then one could conclude that the the superior image comes at a cost of a bigger camera than the competitor.
Or maybe the Hikvision engineers are smarter and figured out how to small form turret the 8MP on the 1/1.2"
Dahua may or may not follow suit.
By some accounts, folks feel the Hikvision 8MP isn't as good as the 4K/X. That is probably subjective and vendor biased in some reviews, but if there is truth to that, then one could conclude that the the superior image comes at a cost of a bigger camera than the competitor.
Or maybe the Hikvision engineers are smarter and figured out how to small form turret the 8MP on the 1/1.2"
user8963
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the turret is alot bigger than the normal version. its not only the turret, you need different mounting brackets... only for 1 model ?
in my opinion even the 5442 dahua turrets are not as good as the bullets.
to my knowledge the bullets have all 4 LEDs and you can set near/far illumination.
turrets only 2 without any near/far settings...
if you need the built in LEDs you will see the difference at night.
also for some reason the vario turret tends to go out of focus for some reason, so need a script for autofocus each day. if your mounting cannot give you reliable autofocus, then good look
EMPIRETECANDY
IPCT Vendor
We are planing a Christmas promotion next week, this time will do more on the IPC-Color4K-X, Dual Lens IPC-T5449H-ASE-D2 , and all 5442 series.
Other models will still have some discount, but will not as good as Black Friday.
Other models will still have some discount, but will not as good as Black Friday.
Gargoile
Getting comfortable
Stop teasing us Andy
What about the IPC-T5842T-ZE 4K Vari-Focal Turret Wildcat_1 reviewed few months ago?
the turret is alot bigger than the normal version. its not only the turret, you need different mounting brackets... only for 1 model ?
in my opinion even the 5442 dahua turrets are not as good as the bullets.
to my knowledge the bullets have all 4 LEDs and you can set near/far illumination.
turrets only 2 without any near/far settings...
if you need the built in LEDs you will see the difference at night.
also for some reason the vario turret tends to go out of focus for some reason, so need a script for autofocus each day. if your mounting cannot give you reliable autofocus, then good look
Hikvision DS-2CD2387G2-L(U) Turret is DimensionØ138.3 mm × 120.1 mm (Ø5.4" × 4.7")
Dahua IPC-HDW5442T-ZE Turret Dimension: Φ122.0 mm × 108.3 mm (Φ4.8" × 4.3")
Seems like not that much bigger.
Different mounting bracket is not expensive. I don't mind about the 2 or 4 LED illumination as I don't plan to use it anyway. But the out of focus thing is a problem that will annoy me.
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EMPIRETECANDY
IPCT Vendor
Oh, yes this one will be in too. Badly lack of chips. Get 20 in this time.What about the IPC-T5842T-ZE 4K Vari-Focal Turret Wildcat_1 reviewed few months ago?
This one smart IR fw can be ready on this Friday. So will make the testing soon
Doe’s anyone know why when I pan my SD8A820WA-HNF around (night time) and it’s in color and all. But when it go‘s past the pole that it hangs on and reflects light back it loses color. I have the area well light. It like seems to reflect off the pole and bam go‘s b/w. Then when I point it back to it’s preset it stays in B/w until daytime.
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I think it is just coincidence when the light reflects back that it loses color.
These things need a lot of light, so when it is looking at an area with light and starts panning, the camera has a timer of how long it will stay color before switching to b/w.
If you feel you have enough light, then switch it from auto to color so that it stays in color regardless of what the sensor is telling it.
Most of us don't have enough light according to the camera, so if we want color we have to force it into color.
These things need a lot of light, so when it is looking at an area with light and starts panning, the camera has a timer of how long it will stay color before switching to b/w.
If you feel you have enough light, then switch it from auto to color so that it stays in color regardless of what the sensor is telling it.
Most of us don't have enough light according to the camera, so if we want color we have to force it into color.